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I still see some of the Crane Dialese out there. Here's a repair kit I have


And here it is in action recently


I come across this often, where a repair is a better alternative than replacement... This lady with the Crane would have needed a whole bathroom remodel in order to replace the faucet...The china in the tiled in Crane sink is custom made for the faucet, a standard wide spread 2 handle faucet would not work here..

I also got her the original style handles for the faucet



She was very happy I was able to restore her faucet as it was as she remembers many years ago
 
Here's another one of my customers old classic Crane sinks
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I seen somewhere these sinks in original condition are worth big bucks...anyone else heard that?

We run into those crane dial ease faucets every once in a while and most of them look pretty beaten up compaired to the ones you have in the picture..... Half the time the handles just crumble off the stems when you touch them... I have had good luck getting the stems out as long as
you dont force them it usually goes ok

those faucets were probably the best brand ever made....



You could be correct about the value of some of the crane stuff...
we have a hardware store in town that has a whole pile of that junk in their back ware house..... He thinks its worth a fortune but when he dies they will probably just get a dumpster and throw it all away...

He is too old fashioned, grumpy , and set in his ways to post the stuff on E-bay and sell it off and too tight to throw any of it away.....


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faucet

what I do is ask for a pic of the faucet in question so I know

what I'm fixing .
delta makes a nice faucet repair kit it has
everything you need and takes up little space
you can't have every part I just have the most common ones
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
Do all 2 handle cartridges are interchangeable? There are many model number but they look alike. I don't want to order all sets if they all fit.


You can refer to post 18 picture number 2
 
Not sure if they all fit, I'm guessing there are different 2 handle cartridges for different applications. I carry just three in my truck, 2 that come in the Delta RP63138 kit

Those 2 are the RP1740 and the RP25513

I also carry the RP20496

That is for the deck mounted tub faucets and a couple of the lav faucets. I see a lot of those in my area. Interestingly, it is not on those parts pages.

These are the only 2 handle delta cartridges I've ever needed in over 30 years of plumbing service. I figure if I ever come across any of the others I will have to make a run to my supplier.

Like MM said, you could stock all of them and you will never use them.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
I compared the 2 handle cartridges that I have and they are similar. The noticeable differences are the the bottom end half moon, the flow restriction and either brass stem or plastic. There are some with ceramic discs.

There is one time my spare cartridge didn't fit but I was able to use the insides of a new one and fit it with the old. Can't remember exactly what I did but it worked.

As far as shower cartridges and handles that I need more often I bought several trim packages off Amazon. 94$ for a cartridge at the supply house. On Amazon 43$ for all the trim (handle, escutcheon, screws, chrome sleeve and cartridge)

Its a funny coincidence because last week the Moen rep in my area wanted to meet me over coffee and talk about my business. Talk about being front and center. He said no problem with parts, he's got crates of popular parts and if he doesn't have them, it's overnight delivery! He's going to send pamphlets, parts exploded list etc. WOW
 
Delta and moen are pretty easy to stock up parts for ....I would no tinvest a load of money in having every type of stem going back to the 80s...
you will never use them.....

I bough tout a bankrupt plumbing company at an auction that had the whole creed inventory of stems and faucet parts going back to the 60s... I got it all for extra dirt cheap ...like for what the brass was worth...


their were some nice dial-ease stems and some odd ball stuff I never have seen before and some gerber
(do you know what a dial-ease is?)..

some parts were to come in handy on a rare occasion but most everything eventually got thrown in the brass bin .....


you will probably never use the stuff in your total lifetime, or you will need two of them and only have one....
Any...
Aquaseal?
Ceramix cartridges?
Delex?
Heritage?
American-Standard flush discs?

Crane Dial-Eze - Was a high-end faucet, ledge mount, on an angle as I remember, fit on Crane's kitchen sinks
 
I got a call this morning from a Delta faucet rep. I had sent a list of parts that I wanted last week. I had ordered from them directly. He tells me from now on all the parts can only be purchased via a supply house. They are no longer providing free internal parts. The original customer of the faucet has to call them with proof to get them free. I said that’s a little stupid because they called me in the first place because they can’t do it themselves. Am I supposed to go there dismantle it to see what’s wrong, shut the customers water for 2 weeks while they wait for parts in the mail and I go back when he receives them??

I get more calls about people wanting to have their drippy faucet fixed. I asked my supply house what other companies do, it turns out not many seem to order parts. How can that be with a shower valve or corner tub. Do they tell the customer sorry we gotta rip your tub surround and your walls to replace it!?

They are supposed to send me a price list. They have so many parts for different faucets that I’d have to be my own supply store. My supply store has nothing.

My question is should I invest in that. Its going to be in the thousands of dollars maybe as much as 3000-4000$ for only internal parts for a decent inventory. I can’t really go to a customer and only have a few things then saying sorry gotta order stuff. Maybe I can specialize in those repairs. Would that be a good idea?

In my area The majority of faucets are Delta, Moen and Belanger. I have a good stock of the last two. What do you service guys do, do you carry a combination of 100’s of parts or do you replace them?
I would not tie up thousands of dollars on stuff that will dry rot setting on a shelf waiting to be installed,you will regret this very much I’m afraid
 
Discussion starter · #30 ·
I would not tie up thousands of dollars on stuff that will dry rot setting on a shelf waiting to be installed,you will regret this very much I’m afraid

You are correct, I'm not going to order many parts. I ordered 3 shower trims so I could get the cartridges and handles. I plan on ordering a few roman tub spout o-rings and that's about it. I'll tell customers the situation for their roman tub and it will be up to them if they want to pay 2 or 3 trips plus supply store run to order parts or for not much more money I'll install a Moen faucet.
 
I’ve been finding that lately(last 4 years) delta faucets are becoming a nightmare to fix even with their genuine parts- to the point that I now refuse to fix/repair delta products...’

Moen is all around a easy fix 99.9% of the time and American standard is mostly easy if you can get the parts.
 
I’ve been finding that lately(last 4 years) delta faucets are becoming a nightmare to fix even with their genuine parts- to the point that I now refuse to fix/repair delta products...’

Moen is all around a easy fix 99.9% of the time and American standard is mostly easy if you can get the parts.
American standard is junk and should be called Mexican standard,their faucets are junk and so is the fixtures
 
I’ve been finding that lately(last 4 years) delta faucets are becoming a nightmare to fix even with their genuine parts- to the point that I now refuse to fix/repair delta products...’

Moen is all around a easy fix 99.9% of the time and American standard is mostly easy if you can get the parts.
American standard is junk and should be called Mexican standard,their faucets are junk and so is the fixtures
AS faucets in the last 5 years can suck it!!!
My GF works in high end kitchen and bath, she said AS was bought out by a Japanese complany, and since then their faucets have $hit the bed!
Their toilets(which I think are made in Mexico) are still somewhat decent, IMO.

Maybe add “Japanese Standard” too the mix.
 
I don't do much repair work on Delta or AS so I can't tell how repair work is on them. I can say that I have started to find delta faucets to be low quality except for their kitchen faucets which are still ok. As far as AS goes, it's junk on par with P-fister.

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Discussion starter · #35 ·
I have 2 pet peeves, the delta bath/shower faucet with the 3 tubes that break off if the nut is stuck.

The other one which I'll be attempting tomorrow is to replace the cartridges in a roman tub with a moen faucet. The cartridges are so deep and stuck that I may scrap it and cut out the skirt to replace it athe fooling with it.

Last moen/roman tub I worked on took 1 hour to remove it and 3 hours to finally put the cartridge in the proper direction!

FUBAR!
 
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