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I have never seen sewer lining mentioned on here. Whats your opinion on it. I did it for 5 yrs and I hated it plus it would make me sick. Anybody else got any experience with it? if so what system did you use? Would you recommend it?
 

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I have never seen sewer lining mentioned on here. Whats your opinion on it. I did it for 5 yrs and I hated it plus it would make me sick. Anybody else got any experience with it? if so what system did you use? Would you recommend it?
I never put the stuff in, but have seen troubles with it first hand. A city relined all their main sewers, and all was good for 6 months. Then I get a call blocked main on the street. I rodded the line was hitting something real tough at the stub. Pulled back and noticed I tore off my cutter. So the city came out and dug up the stub removed the house sewer from it and noticed the liner shifted 5 inches and sure enough there was my cutter caught in the little opening. They went to the manhole down stream and seen about 5 " of the liner sticking out. I have no idea how they fixed it since everyone on that block will have the same issue at the stub.
 

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I looked at that type of system about a year ago. Along with lining failed copper water lines. My opinion and conclusion was that it wasn't a product for me. I was on an estimate for a unit in a 5 story building 4 months ago and the owner commented that they were having some bad spots in there aged cast iron DWV lined. He was charging them 65.00 per foot. I did some quick math in my head and figured I could replace the bad sections in two days for slightly less and make a generous profit with minimal damage, and provide the client with a proven product.

I see where many municipalities are using it as well now. I will be anxious to see the outcome 10 years down the road.
 
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I went to the louisville pumper show and was really impressed with the lmk enterprises system. There t-liner looks like it works really good. I also like the fact that they can line thru a cleanout rather than have to dig a hole in the ground. Even with thier T liner all they do is use a vac truck to dig the an 18 inch hole. NO mess cause they haul the old dirt away and backfill with sand or gravel.
I saw the max liner demonstrated on a t v show and what I liked about that one is that they use a boiler system to cure thier liner which is great if you are in cold weather areas.
 

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Sewer lining doesn't bother as much as water pipe lining. The water pipe lining to me paralyzes a client of future options. I learned about water pipe lining the hard way when I went to unsolder a joint in a bathroom I was working on in a high rise and melted the lining causing a stoppage and a set of head aches i did not want to deal with and leaving me with only sharkbite or compression as an option for repair.
 

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I see future SAG and BELLY problems Keeping us drain guy's busy:thumbup:.
Add the 1.6 gallon flush and stupid people flushing anything. Never a perfect solution always some sort of problem.
 

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I see future SAG and BELLY problems Keeping us drain guy's busy:thumbup:.
Add the 1.6 gallon flush and stupid people flushing anything. Never a perfect solution always some sort of problem.
I don't see how it can get a sag or belly in it unless the original pipe has one in it already since it is run inside the pipe. Unless I am reading your post wrong. One problem I have with it is like my old boss telling people that it will fix a flat or back grading sewer..which we all no it won't. Even if lining is a good thing its people like that that will give it a bad name. Like somebody else said lets wait a few years and see how it holds up. I have seen some of the lateral liners and point repairs collapse after a couple years. I would say that it was bad installations but I installed them myself and I know i did it right.
 

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I never put the stuff in, but have seen troubles with it first hand. A city relined all their main sewers, and all was good for 6 months. Then I get a call blocked main on the street. I rodded the line was hitting something real tough at the stub. Pulled back and noticed I tore off my cutter. So the city came out and dug up the stub removed the house sewer from it and noticed the liner shifted 5 inches and sure enough there was my cutter caught in the little opening. They went to the manhole down stream and seen about 5 " of the liner sticking out. I have no idea how they fixed it since everyone on that block will have the same issue at the stub.
I doubt it had shifted...
More likely the opening had not been fully reestablished.

We use the Max Liner system on sewers.

As far as epoxy lining of supplies I feel there is an element of VooDoo involved...
 

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Sewer lining doesn't bother as much as water pipe lining. The water pipe lining to me paralyzes a client of future options. I learned about water pipe lining the hard way when I went to unsolder a joint in a bathroom I was working on in a high rise and melted the lining causing a stoppage and a set of head aches i did not want to deal with and leaving me with only sharkbite or compression as an option for repair.
I never did do any water pipe line , but I would be very leary of it. Like I said the stuff use to make me sick just smelling it. If they use the same resin mixture that I used I don't think I would want to drink that water or use it for cooking. I got some on my hands one day and then went to the races in paducah. While there my hands started itching like crazy and got ths pain in my chest.I got so sick I thought I was having a heart attack.I am just gald I got away from the stuff. They say it is not dangerous but I don't believe it. I have a feeling a few years down the road it will be considered hazardous.
 
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