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I agree keep those doors closed, people will think you are overcharging them. A lot of people think we are as low as garbage pickers.

If they look into the back of my truck, usually they are impressed with the amount of stuff I have
packed in the 14 footer box.... nothing looks clean or new just like the truck..... but as some have
said to me ---- lord , you have a whole workshop back here....

Also, The people that think you are as low as garbage pickers probably have a college degree that they
hope and pray that Biden erases and cancels for them..... Their is nothing smarter than getting 200k in debt
and the only thing you have to show for it is a social studies degree in something like "African studies"...LOL
Somehow this gives them the right to look down on EVERYONE these days including me and you....
even though I might be debt free and have more money in my wallet than they have in the bank......lol
 

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If they look into the back of my truck, usually they are impressed with the amount of stuff I have
packed in the 14 footer box.... nothing looks clean or new just like the truck..... but as some have
said to me ---- lord , you have a whole workshop back here....

Also, The people that think you are as low as garbage pickers probably have a college degree that they
hope and pray that Biden erases and cancels for them..... Their is nothing smarter than getting 200k in debt
and the only thing you have to show for it is a social studies degree in something like "African studies"...LOL
Somehow this gives them the right to look down on EVERYONE these days including me and you....
even though I might be debt free and have more money in my wallet than they have in the bank......lol
I have whitenessed one guy out of thousands that openly saw this way, but most people don’t IMO
And I have to disagree with the “overcharge” statement… folks are stoaked when they see our setup and if you read my intro on here they actually are telling me I’m one of the most affordable licensed plumbers that’s quoting them. 🤷‍♂️
 

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I have whitenessed one guy out of thousands that openly saw this way, but most people don’t IMO
And I have to disagree with the “overcharge” statement… folks are stoaked when they see our setup and if you read my intro on here they actually are telling me I’m one of the most affordable licensed plumbers that’s quoting them. 🤷‍♂️
Very good, A lot of it depends on your area in the country, don't worry about it and be glad they're like that
 

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I have whitenessed one guy out of thousands that openly saw this way, but most people don’t IMO
And I have to disagree with the “overcharge” statement… folks are stoaked when they see our setup and if you read my intro on here they actually are telling me I’m one of the most affordable licensed plumbers that’s quoting them. 🤷‍♂️
That's great and all, but without that context it can, and does sometimes look bad.

Like the used car salesman who has a shiny new boat. He shouldn't put a picture of it on his desk for customers to see.
 

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If they look into the back of my truck, usually they are impressed with the amount of stuff I have
packed in the 14 footer box.... nothing looks clean or new just like the truck..... but as some have
said to me ---- lord , you have a whole workshop back here....

Also, The people that think you are as low as garbage pickers probably have a college degree that they
hope and pray that Biden erases and cancels for them..... Their is nothing smarter than getting 200k in debt
and the only thing you have to show for it is a social studies degree in something like "African studies"...LOL
Somehow this gives them the right to look down on EVERYONE these days including me and you....
even though I might be debt free and have more money in my wallet than they have in the bank......lol
My van is packed tight and those who want to look are amazed how much is needed.

I've had high money makers make comments of the high rate, whatever theyr'e not the only ones allowed to make money. All they have to do is hire a cheaper company who'll leave on their dirty boots.
 

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Every once in a while I get a new toolbag and some people will ask me how many years I've been with the company. Then I get to remind them I was at their house X months ago, and X years ago, and at their last house!

You can watch the embarrassment flash across their face, followed by a brain fart, then the gears slowly turning, and if they're lucky, the right file is found in that set of cabinets.
Their last house and the house before that in some cases. Or their new house (and their new spouse), the ex's house (and their new spouse) and their kid's house(s).
 

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I don’t so much get the customers saying stuff about my new truck. It’s always the contractors. Everyone of them scoffs when you get something new. Our rates went up January 1st as did all plumbers in my area, now I get the comment oh if you didn’t buy all that equipment or the new truck your rates could have stayed the same.
 

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I don’t so much get the customers saying stuff about my new truck. It’s always the contractors. Everyone of them scoffs when you get something new. Our rates went up January 1st as did all plumbers in my area, now I get the comment oh if you didn’t buy all that equipment or the new truck your rates could have stayed the same.
I think excavation equipment is foreign enough to most people they aren't used to seeing it in any one condition. Most people could tell that my 2014 E-250 is much newer than my 2006 just from the design styling. Also, it seems excavators hold up better than most on the road vehicles.
 

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I don’t so much get the customers saying stuff about my new truck. It’s always the contractors. Everyone of them scoffs when you get something new. Our rates went up January 1st as did all plumbers in my area, now I get the comment oh if you didn’t buy all that equipment or the new truck your rates could have stayed the same.
Can you elaborate on how much you went up vs what you were charging???
 

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Can you elaborate on how much you went up vs what you were charging???
I went up 10$/hr. Going rate in the area was $105.00 for a service call and $85/hr after the first hour. Went up to 115/95.
Excavation rates went up too, fuel, insurance, maintenance parts, oil/grease all have increased 30-45% since last January.
 

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I went up 10$/hr. Going rate in the area was $105.00 for a service call and $85/hr after the first hour. Went up to 115/95.
Excavation rates went up too, fuel, insurance, maintenance parts, oil/grease all have increased 30-45% since last January.
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If you are a licensed and insured plumber, that’s WAYYY to cheap. From Florida-Georgia-Utah-Colorado
Everywhere I’ve worked is pushing $250-$480 a Billable hour

billable hour = time performing job, not time to get materials, time to diagnose, time to talk to customer and time to clean up.
Garbage disposal is quoted at 1 billable hour
A water heater is 3-4 billable hours

idk how Canada is, but the states are prime
 

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Dude
If you are a licensed and insured plumber, that’s WAYYY to cheap. From Florida-Georgia-Utah-Colorado
Everywhere I’ve worked is pushing $250-$480 a Billable hour

billable hour = time performing job, not time to get materials, time to diagnose, time to talk to customer and time to clean up.
Garbage disposal is quoted at 1 billable hour
A water heater is 3-4 billable hours

idk how Canada is, but the states are prime
You go to the more metro areas like toronto, ottawa, london. Us county guys can’t charge that or we won’t be busy. There’s a couple guys that charge that in the county here but of course they don’t have repeat customers. They’re like a one shot deal then the people realize how much extra they spent.
 

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I went up 10$/hr. Going rate in the area was $105.00 for a service call and $85/hr after the first hour. Went up to 115/95.
Excavation rates went up too, fuel, insurance, maintenance parts, oil/grease all have increased 30-45% since last January.
Dude
If you are a licensed and insured plumber, that’s WAYYY to cheap. From Florida-Georgia-Utah-Colorado
Everywhere I’ve worked is pushing $250-$480 a Billable hour

billable hour = time performing job, not time to get materials, time to diagnose, time to talk to customer and time to clean up.
Garbage disposal is quoted at 1 billable hour
A water heater is 3-4 billable hours

idk how Canada is, but the states are prime
You go to the more metro areas like toronto, ottawa, london. Us county guys can’t charge that or we won’t be busy. There’s a couple guys that charge that in the county here but of course they don’t have repeat customers. They’re like a one shot deal then the people realize how much extra they spent.
Hey if it works for you then rock on brotha
 

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Dude
If you are a licensed and insured plumber, that’s WAYYY to cheap. From Florida-Georgia-Utah-Colorado
Everywhere I’ve worked is pushing $250-$480 a Billable hour

billable hour = time performing job, not time to get materials, time to diagnose, time to talk to customer and time to clean up.
Garbage disposal is quoted at 1 billable hour
A water heater is 3-4 billable hours

idk how Canada is, but the states are prime
In the big cities in his province they have to compete with 250+ other companies plus 1000 unlicensed plumbers, hacks and fake companies. My first year I got a call to unclog a drain and the previous hack put 2 bottle of draoo in the main line and put expanding foam in the floor drain, collected the money and disapeared. I got caught in the mix the customer was a durka and didn't want to pay the bill...

I just redid one job last week from a fake plumbing company. The woman called at what she thought was a plumbing company, she wasn't so sure about him and he seemed like he didn't know what he was doing. Once done she opened the dishwasher door and the whole unit pulled out, the idiot didn't know how to use the brackets and he left them in the bag. He put a screw in the side where it didn't anchor anything, he just shoved the machine re-used the damaged flex, put 20 turns of teflon on the rubber seal and wired it without connectors.

Over there these hacks can put all the plumbing ads they want and their ministry don't give a $hit. The hacks charge 20$ and people love it and scoff at the real plumbers. It's so ridiculous I no longer service that area.
 

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I went up 10$/hr. Going rate in the area was $105.00 for a service call and $85/hr after the first hour. Went up to 115/95.
Excavation rates went up too, fuel, insurance, maintenance parts, oil/grease all have increased 30-45% since last January.
Can I ask how do you charge for your excavator??So much per hour I'm assuming with a minimum also
 

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Can I ask how do you charge for your excavator??So much per hour I'm assuming with a minimum also
$125/hr with operator, 4 hr minimum. Same with the skidsteer. Single axle dump is $85/hr , + $2.5-0 mile If we are doing laps to and from a job and the pit.
 
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