[user8031]

We have a policy that allows a HO to purchase their own garbage disposal if they wish. We do not volunteer this information, but if they already bought it and want us to install it- hey! no big deal.

After our company meeting, our boss made a new rule- No Waste Kings! Period! We do not install them, We do not touch them unless we are removing it and pitching it in the garbage. I must say I agree, I always thought they were a piece of Sh*t disposal anyways.

What is your take on Waste Kings?

 

[Redwood]

 

[RealCraftsMan]

I have only put a few in and have had no probs. Are they crap??

 

[plbgbiz]

Light duty, noisy, and cheaply built compared to ISE.

 

[RealCraftsMan]

Light duty, noisy, and cheaply built compared to ISE.

I put in some 1hp models and they seemed nice but that was years ago.

 

[plbgbiz]

To be fair, the last Waste King I saw was 15 years or so ago. Haven't looked at them since.

 

[Miguel]

Same here. Was back in the 90's and they seemed ok. A bit noisy but seemed to work well.
Last fall I trashed an old Waste King and replaced it with a 1hp ISE (I forget the model but it was a decent one) and was kinda pissed when I first energised it. "Damn!" I thought until I realised that it was running but it was just that quiet!

 

[Redwood]

Same here. Was back in the 90's and they seemed ok. A bit noisy but seemed to work well.
Last fall I trashed an old Waste King and replaced it with a 1hp ISE (I forget the model but it was a decent one) and was kinda pissed when I first energised it. "Damn!" I thought until I realised that it was running but it was just that quiet!

I remember that same thing happening on my first ISE Evolution installation... :laughing:

The damn thing was too quiet to be running...

 

[Phat Cat]

Evos are nice. We have noticed the Badger V's are rusting out faster than in the past.

Seems like everything is being made to last just beyond warranty.

 

[Richard Hilliard]

The reason waste kings are noisey is it hits 2700 rpm immediately insinkerators run at 1400 rpm and it hits it gradual.
Supposedly they are more powerful.

 

[DesertOkie]

Evos are nice. We have noticed the Badger V's are rusting out faster than in the past.

Seems like everything is being made to last just beyond warranty.

The biggest problem we see regularly is the badger 1 freezing when it's not used for a while.

 

[Widdershins]

Waste Kings are too bulky, loud and the finish on the shoe will scratch and flake off if you look at it sideways.

Not to mention you're relying only on an over-sized hose clamp to keep them in place.

 

[ChrisConnor]

I worked for a shop that installed only Waste Kings or whatever the private labeled brand they sold. I complained that they were noisy, but the owner said that it was noisy because it was powerful. He bought them because his C-2000 or whatever other group he was a member of got them cheap.

 

[user2090]

Have removed several of the many different labled versions of the Waste King. There method they use to connect to a sink bothers me. Don't seem like a quality unit to me.

No one compares to the I.S.E. as far as I can tell. Why would you want to install anything else?

 

[Don The Plumber]

Waste Kings are too bulky, loud and the finish on the shoe will scratch and flake off if you look at it sideways.

Not to mention you're relying only on an over-sized hose clamp to keep them in place.

ISE is only held up with the rubber strainer gasket too, if you think about it. That rubber just snaps on to a lip on very top of disposal, and then the turn ring just pulls it up to seal, on metal sink flange.

I been using Waste Kings now for about 2yrs & thought the same things you all think. But ISE in my opinion has gotten way too expensive. I still install alot of ISE, but I make more money on the WK. Alot of service calls I go on, the customer don't want to spend $250 just for a disposal.

I can buy a 1 HP Waste king with life time warranty for about $150, and I don't even have to put the damn electrical cord on it, cuz it comes with it connected already.

 

[user2090]

Ise is only held up with the rubber strainer gasket too, if you think about it. That rubber just snaps on to a lip on very top of disposal, and then the turn ring just pulls it up to seal, on metal sink flange.

I been using Waste Kings now for about 2yrs & thought the same things you all think. But ISE in my opinion has gotten way too expensive. I still install alot of ISE, but I make more money on the WK. Alot of service calls I go on, the customer don't want to spend $250 just for a disposal.

I can buy a 1 HP Waste king with life time warranty for about $150, and I don't even have to put the damn electrical cord on it, cuz it comes with it connected already.

Do what you gotta do I suppose, but I won't even offer anything less than a I.S.E. If a person can't afford my prices for a I.S.E. Badger then they are not someone who I would want to work for. I personally prefer people who can afford to buy good products, and pay the bill at the end of the job without trying to make payment arrangements.

 

[ChrisConnor]

The cost of ownership and comfort of ownership will be a factor in repeat sales.

It kind of reminds me of the General Tire slogan "Sooner or later, you'll own Generals". For quality minded buyers, they usually aren't re purchased, this is what I hear directly from my tire guy.

 

[Don The Plumber]

Do what you gotta do I suppose, but I won't even offer anything less than a I.S.E. If a person can't afford my prices for a I.S.E. Badger then they are not someone who I would want to work for. I personally prefer people who can afford to buy good products, and pay the bill at the end of the job without trying to make payment arrangements.

If a person don't want to spend alot of money on a disposal, it doesn't always mean they don't have the money, it's just not important to them.

My whole point is, I have had no problems with WK, & don't feel that it is much less superior in quality than the ISE. I carry both WK & ISE and give the customer a choice.

I put a WK in a basement kitchen last week. The customer only uses the kitchen occassionally. They don't want a $300 disposal, & I gave them a disposal with an 8yr warranty, for the price of a Badger 5.

Believe me, I been doin this over 30 yrs. I know what type of people can afford my services. I give them options. I just replaced a Badger 5 that was in my basement kitchen for 18yrs. I got no issues with that unit, except they only have a 2yr warranty, & you gotta supply & install the power cord too. I carry a Badger 1 & 5 in my truck.

 

[jeffreyplumber]

Ive seen p.o.s. disposals before. I think both waste king and ISE are not in that category but at the bottom end prices their cheapest ones arent great. Even the insinkerater isnt great they are kind of marginal.
But who the hell cares? If you guys are gona install owner supplied stuff then why would your boss care? Will you install any other cheapie disposal but not a waste king?
Back to your question though my opinion on Waste King is they are ok. I definately prefer ISE Mainly because Ive installed more than hundred for every other brand. I prefer to work on a Chevy but I dont think that a ford is a total P.O.S
How about Faucets do you install Delta but Refuse MOEN? Just wondering To me it all pays the same. Sure I prefer Kohler but Ill install American Standard.
If you ever do Construction and you get a big job you install whats in contract.

 

[SHAUN C]

Never installed or removed a waste king. It looks like a giant hose clamp is all that supports the unit, am I right?