[skoronesa]

I met several plumbers over the years insist there was no need for rotating jaws. I helped my brother pipe in a couple of tankless at his his a few years ago and his company uses Milwaukee. I cussed that non rotating pro press the entire afternoon.

My torch rotates in all directions haha.

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

You have a propress?

No, it’s not worth it and I don’t need it, don’t want it or I’d have a few. 🤣

What state do you work in ?

 

[sparky]

One of my plumbers used 'his 'camera and locator' the other day. Not that it wasn't a misread or error on his part but he missed badly. 7' deep sewer line break, not 3' feet. And five feet further away under the driveway. 10" thick concrete so we blamed it on the concrete depth and sent a change order. Unhappy customer....... I don't trust Chineseum cameras.

I don't think any camera is 100% accurate is it??? I could see this happening to anybody using any brand camera

 

[sparky]

Yet they pay for themselves in mere months..............................

In a large metro area maybe,in my rural area it take forever to pay for a 10,000.00 camera

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

In a large metro area maybe,in my rural area it take forever to pay for a 10,000.00 camera

If you used it to sell dig jobs it wouldn’t and that’s how most people use it.
They clean/ open the drain then run the camera down for “ free “ and show custy all the problems then sell the dig.

I have a few friends that do it all the time. That’s how they operate.

I’m so slick I dont need a camera to sell a dig. 🤣

 

[sparky]

I have an ~8yr old Ridgid CS6PAK SeeSnake Camera on the van. Takes the same 18v Batteries as my Propress which is nice. Also have the Ridgid SR20 Locator/Transmitter/Current Clamp setup, bought at the same time. The transmitter goes through C cells faster than I would like but other than that the camera and pipe finder have both been great. Neither have needed to be repaired at all. I am told most cameras need a new head/head reattached at ~2-3yrs. I use my camera several times a week and I know how hard I have rammed that thing down pipes. I must have gotten one made on a wednesday.

The camera was ~$6k and the pipe finder setup was ~$3k. Both have paid for themselves several times over.


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Are you adequately trained in the proper usuage of the delicate instruments

 

[sparky]

No, it’s not worth it and I don’t need it, don’t want it or I’d have a few. 🤣

What state do you work in ?

Agreeeeee,I don't trust a 0.5c o ring to last like a solder joint

 

[sparky]

If you used it to sell dig jobs it wouldn’t and that’s how most people use it.
They clean/ open the drain then run the camera down for “ free “ and show custy all the problems then sell the dig.

I have a few friends that do it all the time. That’s how they operate.

I’m so slick I dont need a camera to sell a dig. 🤣

The idiot people in my area wouldn't believe anything the video showed them,im in tango land with the idiots

 

[skoronesa]

I don't think any camera is 100% accurate is it??? I could see this happening to anybody using any brand camera

It depends, sometimes there is massive interference and you're correct, neither I, the electrician, the utility company, or even 811 can locate the line within 10'. Other times I show up and find it immediately when others couldn't, sometimes it's the opposite.

 

[skoronesa]

Are you adequately trained in the proper usuage of the delicate instruments

Experience is all there is to it. You just have to get a feel for it. After 8 years I have gotten pretty darn good. I can usually tell when I am chasing a ghost. I can usually tell how close I actually am and I will make sure the excavator knows that. If I can't pinpoint it I will leave several flags in a circle/square.

 

[skoronesa]

In a large metro area maybe,in my rural area it take forever to pay for a 10,000.00 camera

Some of the easiest camera jobs to sell are on old properties/farms with several tanks/septic systems and old pipes in the ground. When you have three generations of farmers with backhoes things can get pretty complicated!

 

[skoronesa]

The idiot people in my area wouldn't believe anything the video showed them,im in tango land with the idiots

That's why I prefer to camera with the customer right next to me watching. Or I will record a video and at the start and end I show the room I am in on the video.

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

Agreeeeee,I don't trust a 0.5c o ring to last like a solder joint

Oh you mean the “ sealing element “. 🤣

Sounds so much more professional, only pros use “ pro “ press. See what THEY did there ? 🤣

 

[sparky]

Oh you mean the “ sealing element “. 🤣

Sounds so much more professional, only pros use “ pro “ press. See what THEY did there ? 🤣

😉

 

[skoronesa]

Agreeeeee,I don't trust a 0.5c o ring to last like a solder joint

The o-rings don't handle acidity well. I see it all the time on heating systems with antifreeze that's gone acidic. I've also seen it happen a handful of times with acidic well water. When the water is acidic enough with a high turbidity it won't pinhole the copper but can still eat the o-ring.

Propress not compatible with antifreeze

I have seen this in a number of places, propress does not handle antifreeze well when the antifreeze goes sour. If you can guarantee you won't let it go sour than ok, but can you really guarantee that? .

www.plumbingzone.com

Moral of the story is that Propress can be a good thing, you just need to use it judiciously. Even a house piped with sweat copper will have some threaded joints. Sweat copper didn't replace threaded joints completely. Pex didn't replace copper completely. Propress hasn't replaced sweat copper completely. Every time we get a new piping technology it doesn't replace the others 100%.

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

Here’s some info you guys might find useful.

 

[hewhodigsholes]

Here’s some info you guys might find useful.

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Wow, that's quite a range.

I feel like water with that low a pH would have an odd flavor to it, like flat seltzer water.

 

[dhal22]

I have an ~8yr old Ridgid CS6PAK SeeSnake Camera on the van. Takes the same 18v Batteries as my Propress which is nice. Also have the Ridgid SR20 Locator/Transmitter/Current Clamp setup, bought at the same time. The transmitter goes through C cells faster than I would like but other than that the camera and pipe finder have both been great. Neither have needed to be repaired at all. I am told most cameras need a new head/head reattached at ~2-3yrs. I use my camera several times a week and I know how hard I have rammed that thing down pipes. I must have gotten one made on a wednesday.

The camera was ~$6k and the pipe finder setup was ~$3k. Both have paid for themselves several times over.


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We have the Scout and the SR20, love the sr20. Sea snake compact with the same monitor but I bought the SC65 monitor for our 200' reel. The keyboard looks great in front of the customer.