Reverend, R.S.E., Master Plumber
Nice Head, what’s in the bag?
Cut a hole in the wall behind the valve,to access the pin.
I’ve seen a few chewed up cartridges/stems, where the homeowner didn’t know about the “pin”… heheh.No sir. I assure you moen switched at some point to black and it stayed black for quite a while. And now they’re green.
but to the OP, I can get that clip out as is, and hope to bell I don’t drop it in the process.
Anyone ever come across one with the HO put a pipe wrench on the valve body (cartridge housing) and bend and twist the ever loving sh!t out of it? I have. I had no words.