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Reverend, R.S.E., Master Plumber
Nice Head, what’s in the bag?
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No sir. I assure you moen switched at some point to black and it stayed black for quite a while. And now they’re green.

but to the OP, I can get that clip out as is, and hope to bell I don’t drop it in the process.
Anyone ever come across one with the HO put a pipe wrench on the valve body (cartridge housing) and bend and twist the ever loving sh!t out of it? I have. I had no words.
I’ve seen a few chewed up cartridges/stems, where the homeowner didn’t know about the “pin”… heheh.
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