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In reguards to shoddy plumbing practice and inferior materials a group of Master Plumbers drew up this resolution which was the foundation of professional plumbing standards and practices. See how times have changed.

Whereas, the manufacturing and wholesale firms in plumbing materials persist in selling to consumers, to our injury and detriment, placing us toward our customers in the light of extorsionists, causing endless trouble; and

Whereas, The system of protecting us from this wrong, which draws in it's wake other wrongs, is innefective; it is absolutly necessary to perfect such a system, by united action, which will remove these evils from which we have suffered for years; therefore be it

Resolved, That we withdraw our patronage from any firm manufacturing or dealing in plumbers material selling to others than master plumbers.

Resolved, That the manufacturers of gas fixtures, selling to consumers shall not recieve the patronage of any master plumber.

Resolved, That the master plumbers shall demand of the manufacturers and wholesale dealers in plumbing materials to sell goods to none but master plumbers.

Resolved, That this association shall keep a record of all journeymen and plumbers who place in buildings, plumbing material bought by consumers of manufacturers or dealers.

Resolved, That and manufacturing or wholesale dealers, dealing in wrought iron pipe, who sell to consumers shall not receive our patronage.

Resolved, That a commitee be appointed by this association in every state and county, for the purpose of reporting to the proper officer at it's head in the state any violation of these resolutions.

Resolved, That these measures are just and necessary to our welfare, and a rigid enforcement is demanded.

Resolved, That this convention endorse the above, and urge upon the national association to perfect and adopt a uniform system of protection for the trade over their entire jurisdiction.

So what ever happened to the "governing body"? Did the PHCC take the reins?
 

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I think MASCO bought them and now they all work for Furgesons.
 

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One thing REALLY irritates me is that I can easily get fined or worse if I install a water heater without pulling a permit in my state. And of course pulling a permit requires a plumbing license.
Yet, any joe-shmoe can walk into Blowe's and buy any water heater they want and install it without getting caught.

Is that unfair to the licensed plumbers or what? The state board fines us for not pulling permits, the permits make the job more expensive, whihc encourages HOs to beat us up on price even more and try to install their own heaters.... but anyone can buy a water heater??? Its utter bullshit imo.
 

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One thing REALLY irritates me is that I can easily get fined or worse if I install a water heater without pulling a permit in my state. And of course pulling a permit requires a plumbing license.
Yet, any joe-shmoe can walk into Blowe's and buy any water heater they want and install it without getting caught.

Is that unfair to the licensed plumbers or what? The state board fines us for not pulling permits, the permits make the job more expensive, whihc encourages HOs to beat us up on price even more and try to install their own heaters.... but anyone can buy a water heater??? Its utter bullshit imo.
Thank you, thank you, thank you
 

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If you really read through the resolution you can see that today we have the very same problems that plumbers had 124 years ago.
 

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If you really read through the resolution you can see that today we have the very same problems that plumbers had 124 years ago.
You'd know better than I would.
It seems like somewhere in between now and then we have slipped backwards.
 
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One thing REALLY irritates me is that I can easily get fined or worse if I install a water heater without pulling a permit in my state. And of course pulling a permit requires a plumbing license.
Yet, any joe-shmoe can walk into Blowe's and buy any water heater they want and install it without getting caught.

Is that unfair to the licensed plumbers or what? The state board fines us for not pulling permits, the permits make the job more expensive, whihc encourages HOs to beat us up on price even more and try to install their own heaters.... but anyone can buy a water heater??? Its utter bullshit imo.
Hell yeah! Speak it brother. I completly agree with you
 

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Up here anybody can do anything they want in their homes. There is no shortage of places a HO can go to buy parts for whatever they want to fix. Pretty scary that a HO can go buy parts to convert his own furnace etc. Permits are only needed for new construction so its a free for all for anything else. And a HO can pull his own permits and do the work himself for the new construction. Seen some pretty scary home handyman work over the years. Trying to get new laws to govern this crap is near impossible, but going o keep trying.
 
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