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· philosopher and statesmen
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If your kids don't really deserve it then why give it all to them? I see so many people who get money from the succession and blow it away, on $10 000 worth of woman's make up, clothes that go straight to salvation army never worn, a bunch of useless stuff or smoke weed and sniff coke. It would piss me off, If I'd give money to unreliable children it would be on some condition like once they open a successful biz after 5-10 years they get the money. By then if they are successful they are more likely to appreciate the value and use it wisely. Otherwise I would not give much and give it to someone unrelated or others who merit it.

Anyway the average life expectancy for a plumber is 67 years old so it's time to enjoy life NOW.

Take my mother's husband (70-74) he was getting a little slow and one day bam he started to say his butt cheeks weren't connected and suddenly he was incapable of taking care of himself. From then on he was mentally game over. The body degraded right after, in a matter of months they had to sell his mega garage on another lot where he spent all his days there, they sold the house, all the 4wheelers, boat, the car and truck. Now he spends a whole lot of time at the hospital half in and out of lucidity, can't climb stairs or get up from the ground.
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My kids are just fine and seem to appreciate everything we have done for them,
I was just speculating on how I want to be remembered vs not leaving them a dime.......

I will be 69 in may but I took the day off and went snow skiing today with my son
and a freind so I will probably be sore tomorrow morning..
of course my cell phone rang off the wall in my ski jacket all day long
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I am starting to see the light about this since terry Love died last week
but in all honesty I cant pass up the money that I rake in every day
cause it is just coming way too easy now days compared to when we
used to work like dogs do slab rough inns and new home construction..

The money is coming in easy peasy right now and
to just stay home sitting around scratching my nut sack all day long
looking for something to do is just plain dam stupid ...
 

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My kids are just fine and seem to appreciate everything we have done for them,
I was just speculating on how I want to be remembered vs not leaving them a dime.......

I will be 69 in may but I took the day off and went snow skiing today with my son
and a freind so I will probably be sore tomorrow morning..
of course my cell phone rang off the wall in my ski jacket all day long
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I am starting to see the light about this since terry Love died last week
but in all honesty I cant pass up the money that I rake in every day
cause it is just coming way too easy now days compared to when we
used to work like dogs do slab rough inns and new home construction..

The money is coming in easy peasy right now and
to just stay home sitting around scratching my nut sack all day long
looking for something to do is just plain dam stupid ...
I'm sure of all the years you've been working you've amassed a substantial amount of money unless you spend it as you go, so the question is do you need more? Do you like working so much and adding zeroes to the bank account it outweighs the joy of doing fun things? If you don't need more money why don't you make plans of the things you wanted to do all your life? You like hiking, why don't you get an RV, travel the country, visit trails, do village sight seeing, go see the grand canyon, go eat out at restaurants, visit boutiques with the wife?

I remember a very rich a multi millionaire developer who was so cheap he died at 80+ years old on the bulldozer working full time. I guess his joy was just seeing zeroes in the bank account, for me I just don't understand.
 

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Plenty of people work until they "die in their boots". I have seen it many times and I am sure it's prevalent in every line of work. Most I would think have enough money to quit, but their work becomes an identity that they can't let go. I saw this a lot with airline pilots. I don't have enough observations yet of other plumbers to see if this is the case in the trades as well.

They may also have no hobbies and the kids are out of the house, so they have nothing else to do. It's definitely not the way I envision living life, but to each their own. It's a big world out there. I enjoy walking daily and trying to get healthy. If I was working all week doing 12 hour days, I'd likely have little energy left to do my walking routine.

So having that freedom and time is paramount for me. Truth is, though, is that in our economy, we need the workaholics that keep capitalism moving forward. It's what makes the world go round'. I don't see that type of attitude toward money and wealth going away and again, to each their own.

Some people just like what they do and if the work isn’t too hard and they think it’s challenging and fun, then I can certainly understand continuing to do that.
 

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I'm sure of all the years you've been working you've amassed a substantial amount of money unless you spend it as you go, so the question is do you need more? Do you like working so much and adding zeroes to the bank account it outweighs the joy of doing fun things? If you don't need more money why don't you make plans of the things you wanted to do all your life? You like hiking, why don't you get an RV, travel the country, visit trails, do village sight seeing, go see the grand canyon, go eat out at restaurants, visit boutiques with the wife?

I remember a very rich a multi millionaire developer who was so cheap he died at 80+ years old on the bulldozer working full time. I guess his joy was just seeing zeroes in the bank account, for me I just don't understand.
I know a lot of people who retired and now they are just doing what you are talking about but
they are now having to watch their pennies real close because the influx of cash has certainly dried up.

I would rather be doing both... working and fooling around too.... Talked to a fellow yesterday who
is retired and is gonna get a part time job driving a school bus in the mornings and afternoons to ddrop
off kinds ... makes a grand total of 120 per day doing this.... I dont think I can gear down that slow myself

Ok, if I hit thepowerball then I would probably go buy a house on the Oregon coast somewhere
and just hang out......but for now its just a few 3 week vacations here and there... .

tango, you realize that visiting boutiques with the wife is a special kind of hell that befalls a lot of men
and I personally would rather be digging a ditch than going nuts watching them shop ,

..I probably could buy a RV of some kind and just drive around like a vagabond
or maybe I should take up acting or become a stand up comedian??.


What do you think about this little jewell .. I almost bought this back 4 years ago but the wife would not let me...
so this would have been a win-win...
I could have gone off by myself and the wife would not be seen dead in this beauty...

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Im Doing everything I can to enjoy things now while I’m younger. I take lots of time off. I’m not working 60 hour weeks anymore. The job can wait until tomorrow to be finished. If I find a tool that makes my job easier I buy it. I’m at home every morning helping the wife get the kids ready for school, then I start my day. I’m home every night for dinner. On occasion I’ll work a long week for things like the recent freeze but otherwise my time at home is most valuable. I’d recommend every master plumber to be self employed and leave the big companies to die. At the end of the day they don’t care about you or your life.
 

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I know a lot of people who retired and now they are just doing what you are talking about but
they are now having to watch their pennies real close because the influx of cash has certainly dried up.

I would rather be doing both... working and fooling around too.... Talked to a fellow yesterday who
is retired and is gonna get a part time job driving a school bus in the mornings and afternoons to ddrop
off kinds ... makes a grand total of 120 per day doing this.... I dont think I can gear down that slow myself

Ok, if I hit thepowerball then I would probably go buy a house on the Oregon coast somewhere
and just hang out......but for now its just a few 3 week vacations here and there... .

tango, you realize that visiting boutiques with the wife is a special kind of hell that befalls a lot of men
and I personally would rather be digging a ditch than going nuts watching them shop ,

..I probably could buy a RV of some kind and just drive around like a vagabond
or maybe I should take up acting or become a stand up comedian??.


What do you think about this little jewell .. I almost bought this back 4 years ago but the wife would not let me...
so this would have been a win-win...
I could have gone off by myself and the wife would not be seen dead in this beauty...

tango, you realize that visiting boutiques with the wife is a special kind of hell that befalls a lot of men
and I personally would rather be digging a ditch than going nuts watching them shop ,


I am one of them unlucky SOB's! I can't find the pictures I took this summer but I was waiting outside a mall store while she was shopping for makeup and I snapped 4 other guys leaning on the rail waiting for their women. I won't go into details but when we do weekend road trips I suffer a whole lot and it causes a lot of friction, she can't decide between 2 pairs of earrings for over an hour! Then she decides not to buy either one and off to the next boutique! HELP!!!

I would not go work at HD at minimum wage while retired, I'll keep my licence active and do easy jobs.

The RV looks in good shape, too bad the wife would not want to be seen in it, mine doesn't like to be seen in my sports car, "too flashy". I guess my next car she'll never get in it. :rolleyes:
 

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tango, you realize that visiting boutiques with the wife is a special kind of hell that befalls a lot of men
and I personally would rather be digging a ditch than going nuts watching them shop ,


I am one of them unlucky SOB's! I can't find the pictures I took this summer but I was waiting outside a mall store while she was shopping for makeup and I snapped 4 other guys leaning on the rail waiting for their women. I won't go into details but when we do weekend road trips I suffer a whole lot and it causes a lot of friction, she can't decide between 2 pairs of earrings for over an hour! Then she decides not to buy either one and off to the next boutique! HELP!!!

I would not go work at HD at minimum wage while retired, I'll keep my licence active and do easy jobs.

The RV looks in good shape, too bad the wife would not want to be seen in it, mine doesn't like to be seen in my sports car, "too flashy". I guess my next car she'll never get in it. :rolleyes:
The boutique reminds of this Bill Burr segment

 

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tango, you realize that visiting boutiques with the wife is a special kind of hell that befalls a lot of men
and I personally would rather be digging a ditch than going nuts watching them shop ,


I am one of them unlucky SOB's! I can't find the pictures I took this summer but I was waiting outside a mall store while she was shopping for makeup and I snapped 4 other guys leaning on the rail waiting for their women. I won't go into details but when we do weekend road trips I suffer a whole lot and it causes a lot of friction, she can't decide between 2 pairs of earrings for over an hour! Then she decides not to buy either one and off to the next boutique! HELP!!!

I would not go work at HD at minimum wage while retired, I'll keep my licence active and do easy jobs.

The RV looks in good shape, too bad the wife would not want to be seen in it, mine doesn't like to be seen in my sports car, "too flashy". I guess my next car she'll never get in it. :rolleyes:

I know your pain with the ladies shopping I dont put up with much of that crap
and I just let her go graze on her own... I go my own way and meet up with
her at a later time-- and of course she wants to show me her prize finds ...

The RV was something that popped up in California on E-bay...
it was a 1978 diesel with 45,000 miles on it.... for $4000....
My wife thought I was nuts and said that she would not get caught dead in
that thing so I looked at it as an adventure to fly out there and attempt to drive it home....
I told her if it broke down
I would just leave it where it died and find another way home...

It was just a wet dream or mine..
 

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Getting past 50-60 years old you really have to start enjoying life and to things you always wanted to do otherwise you will miss out. For the last 3 years I've been doing things I really enjoy like road trips to villages on the week end and going towards goals that for most people it is not sane and throwing money away. You only have one chance to live like you want.
I'm older than that, but feel no need to retire. I'm making good money with a decent reputation and enjoy my main hobby: business.
Never met Terry and saw his website once. If there's a way to make money from slackin', Washington state will do it.....
 

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I'm older than that, but feel no need to retire. I'm making good money with a decent reputation and enjoy my main hobby: business.
Never met Terry and saw his website once. If there's a way to make money from slackin', Washington state will do it.....
Terry made real good money off his web site and was not even trying to optimize it .
I dont fault him for that at all... the only people that would are just jealous that he thought of it first
way back in 2003 or so.........lol..


I am doing about the same as you , just hand picking the work and passing on the dog shi/ calls.....
did a 55 electric heater and a 50 electric today ... We make more money than many make in a month so
it is real hard to pass this stuff up, and what else can you do in the wintertime anyway??

My reputation seems to be pretty good around here too...
My wife was looking on the internet and just stumbled on an article with me being
mentioned in the 10 best plumbers in town review and I did not even know about it... A couple of the other people
mentioned in the add as the best 10 plumbers I know were very questionable...

.Free advertiseing is always the best kind.....
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It's my 4th year ranked in the Top 3, you cannot buy your way in and your name remains online. Free.

Unlike another where I was chosen #1 but the catch is you have to pay to keep the title for 1 year and get stickers. I said no to that one, it's a hefty amount. if you don't accept they offer it to the second highest plumber and so on.

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It's my 4th year ranked in the Top 3, you cannot buy your way in and your name remains online. Free.

Unlike another where I was chosen #1 but the catch is you have to pay to keep the title for 1 year and get stickers. I said no to that one, it's a hefty amount. if you don't accept they offer it to the second highest plumber and so on.

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Good on ya for that #1! Phuck those other scammers!
 

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Terry made real good money off his web site and was not even trying to optimize it .
I dont fault him for that at all... the only people that would are just jealous that he thought of it first
way back in 2003 or so.........lol..


I am doing about the same as you , just hand picking the work and passing on the dog shi/ calls.....
did a 55 electric heater and a 50 electric today ... We make more money than many make in a month so
it is real hard to pass this stuff up, and what else can you do in the wintertime anyway??

My reputation seems to be pretty good around here too...
My wife was looking on the internet and just stumbled on an article with me being
mentioned in the 10 best plumbers in town review and I did not even know about it... A couple of the other people
mentioned in the add as the best 10 plumbers I know were very questionable...

.Free advertiseing is always the best kind.....
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Yep. It'd be insane to hang up the wrenches when I'm making this much money doing something that I find almost boring. To break up the monotony, I'm growing the business just for kicks. No risk, really, as everything is paid off: no mortgages or anything.

Not to forget that people love plumbers with 45 years of experience.....
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Yep. It'd be insane to hang up the wrenches when I'm making this much money doing something that I find almost boring. To break up the monotony, I'm growing the business just for kicks. No risk, really, as everything is paid off: no mortgages or anything.

Not to forget that people love plumbers with 45 years of experience.....
It's okay and I agree with you , its better to make money than just sit around..
but building up the business is a headache I will not do ever again...
I wont hire anyone again and have deal with all the drama and mental issues
that comes with it....

Over the years I came very close to actually having to kill a couple of nuts that worked for me ,
they both came back to the office high as kites , with revenge on their minds wanting to pick a fight..

Today , I would probably end up in jail for killing the next idiot...



I started doing plumbing when I was a kid in 1964, so does that mean I have
59 years plumbing experience?? Or does it start when you get your liscense??
 

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....Today , I would probably end up in jail for killing the next idiot...

I started doing plumbing when I was a kid in 1964, so does that mean I have
59 years plumbing experience?? Or does it start when you get your liscense??
The experience starts when you're first sent out to the truck for parts. The first plumbing truck I drove was a 1964 Dodge picking up parts and taking them to the site. You had to block the wheels or it would roll away.

I don't mind the idiots much. Most are more worried about me than I'm concerned about them. Hard to find idiots, though.
 
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