[Matt Maves]

How do you guys deal with a situation like this? When you just shut down a house, you have to warn them about the valve breaking and also other faucets could get clogged when it's turned back on. How do you warn an entire condo and relinquish responsibility?

 

[Tango]

Once again you come here demanding answers and you never participate in anybody else's threads. I'm not encouraging this behavior.

 

[hewhodigsholes]

I hate to be this guy, but I seem to recall you saying you've been plumbing for years, with a good portion of that being service. Honest and in no way intended to be sarcastic question: how do you not know how to deal with building shutdowns already?

 

[Matt Maves]

I was not in service plumbing. It was all new construction.

 

[Plumbus]

Do they have a HOA? How about a property manager?
If so, arrange a shut down with them. Otherwise, you'll have to go door to door plus post details all over the place. Or, get your HO to do it. Tell them you'll charge to do it if they aren't willing to do so.

 

[sparky]

I was not in service plumbing. It was all new construction.

You should still know how to do this no matter what construction

 

[Matt Maves]

Do they have a HOA? How about a property manager?
If so, arrange a shut down with them. Otherwise, you'll have to go door to door plus post details all over the place. Or, get your HO to do it. Tell them you'll charge to do it if they aren't willing to do so.

Thanks Plumbus

 

[Matt Maves]

Once again you come here demanding answers and you never participate in anybody else's threads. I'm not encouraging this behavior.

I'm brand new to service plumbing. I don't have the knowledge or experience to give advice to others, although I have done this a few times, when it was a subject I knew about.

 

[Pipewrench78]

How do you guys deal with a situation like this? When you just shut down a house, you have to warn them about the valve breaking and also other faucets could get clogged when it's turned back on. How do you warn an entire condo and relinquish responsibility?

Be careful with these type of jobs!

 

[Tommy plumber]

Ask the condo association to handle that. Have them warn the residents and have them acutally turn the valve off. This way if the valve breaks, they did it, not you. When you're done, have them open the valve slowly.

Once years ago at a condo in Palm Beach, FL I showed up to do some work in the parking garage. I had to replace a hose spigot at the base of a 2" copper riser. No pro-press back then. I had to drain the 2" copper riser and re-solder a new hose spigot on at the base which had a 2" x 3/4"x 2" copper tee. Well the condo association maintenance had not warned the residents. So I asked he bldg. manager on duty what he wanted to do. Re-schedule for another day, or shut the water off to the whole place. He decided to shut 'er down so I could get to work.

Wouldn't you know it a lady had dyed her hair and needed to rinse the hair dye out. But she couldn't because the water was turned off right after she put the hair dye in....LOL.

But that could never come back to bite me because I left it to the mgr. to decide that day to shut the water off. It was his call. So that's how you play that call. Let bldg. mgmt. turn water off and on.

 

[skoronesa]

Ask the condo association to handle that. Have them warn the residents and have them acutally turn the valve off. This way if the valve breaks, they did it, not you. When you're done, have them open the valve slowly.

Once years ago at a condo in Palm Beach, FL I showed up to do some work in the parking garage. I had to replace a hose spigot at the base of a 2" copper riser. No pro-press back then. I had to drain the 2" copper riser and re-solder a new hose spigot on at the base which had a 2" x 3/4"x 2" copper tee. Well the condo association maintenance had not warned the residents. So I asked he bldg. manager on duty what he wanted to do. Re-schedule for another day, or shut the water off to the whole place. He decided to shut 'er down so I could get to work.

Wouldn't you know it a lady had dyed her hair and needed to rinse the hair dye out. But she couldn't because the water was turned off right after she put the hair dye in....LOL.

But that could never come back to bite me because I left it to the mgr. to decide that day to shut the water off. It was his call. So that's how you play that call. Let bldg. mgmt. turn water off and on.

Legally for the landlord that's a very dangerous game to play. I know that where I am residents have to be notified at least 24hrs in advance of a water off unless it's an emergency. In a large building with dozens of people you increase your risk of having that one cuckoo tenant that wants to make a cup of coffee and then decides to file a complaint.

Or like you explained, someone could be covered in a chemical like hair dye or hair remover. Hair remover is extremely caustic and causes burns even when used properly, that's how it works.

Like I said though, "emergencies" happen and then you are allowed to shut the water off without notice. Maybe the super accidentally hit the spigot with his heavy tool box when he was walking by.....

 

[breplum]

DO NOT work on condos. If you have to ask this question, you don't have enough insurance in the first place.
Even in non condos, we worked on apts all the time. Full written notice to every unit 24 and 48 hours in advance which also will include entering every unit once water is turned back on to make sure none of the idiots have opened a faucet and then left. (happens all the time !, Murphy's 67th corollary)
Best to have a large crew available to run and enter every unit when the water is turned back on. This is an all hands on deck proposition and you should NEVER take on work for a condo anyway because your insurance probably doesn't cover it.
And NEVER work on buildings that do not have separate unit isolation if you own any assets because condo associations will sue you for everything at the drop of a dime.

 

[sparky]

Don't worry about it,just shut that water off without telling anyone and start cutting

 

[skoronesa]

Don't worry about it,just shut that water off without telling anyone and start cutting

"Emergency"

 

[sparky]

"Emergency"

Lololololo right

 

[Tango]

DO NOT work on condos. If you have to ask this question, you don't have enough insurance in the first place.
Even in non condos, we worked on apts all the time. Full written notice to every unit 24 and 48 hours in advance which also will include entering every unit once water is turned back on to make sure none of the idiots have opened a faucet and then left. (happens all the time !, Murphy's 67th corollary)
Best to have a large crew available to run and enter every unit when the water is turned back on. This is an all hands on deck proposition and you should NEVER take on work for a condo anyway because your insurance probably doesn't cover it.
And NEVER work on buildings that do not have separate unit isolation if you own any assets because condo associations will sue you for everything at the drop of a dime.

You bring excellent points when turning the water back on and somone left a faucet open. That means I willl further limit my exposure in them. I already refuse working on water in most buildings older than 15 years old, the emco valves all fail one after the other and the main one is also emco.