Those Smitty plates are ugly.If you change out a MOEN you can get a stainless steel repair plate to
go around it, you can also get what are called SMITTY repair plates
for both single handle valves, and two, or three handles :biggrin:
I have used these many times over the years ! :biggrin:
The new ones that Moen has come out with completely replace the round cover plate in the trim kit so you don't have to have a round plate on top of an oval plate. They are much nicer to look at.