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I pay $430 for a 40 electric and around $520 for a 50 electric.

It usually takes me around and hour to 1.5 hrs replace one of its readily accessible. By myself and taking my time.
You are moving kind of slow ...... just saying...
 

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it all works out to around 1700-1800 on average.... more or less...

some old man yesterday told me my prices were too low but
I dont like being asked to leave the house in a hurry like BEN F gets
all the time after giving the customer their prices......

I cant stand being rejected....
..:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Its all good as far as I am concerned.... maybe I am not making the top dollar
but I am busy enough and I am blessed.......
That all that matters and if you listen to terrytotosucks you will become a more richer plumber working on your 2nd million lolololo
 

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That all that matters and if you listen to terrytotosucks you will become a more richer plumber working on your 2nd million lolololo

Sparky, I am good where I am at right now..... dont need my second million

Had a load of lumber dropped off this morning, then I went out at noon
and installed a 40 gallon short rheem gas heater.... then came home and
had another load of lumber dropped off at my house then I went out at
3.30 and installed a 50 gallon electric heater in a basement

TERRY...I Had both heaters stocked in my BOX TRUCK and it worked out to be
a profitable afternoon....

now at 6.30 I think I am gonna fire up my chain saw
and make some noise

it never really ends....
 

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I aint CPV see in it?
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Sparky, I am good where I am at right now..... dont need my second million

Had a load of lumber dropped off this morning, then I went out at noon
and installed a 40 gallon short rheem gas heater.... then came home and
had another load of lumber dropped off at my house then I went out at
3.30 and installed a 50 gallon electric heater in a basement

TERRY...I Had both heaters stocked in my BOX TRUCK and it worked out to be
a profitable afternoon....

now at 6.30 I think I am gonna fire up my chain saw
and make some noise

it never really ends....
What are we building with all that lumber?
 

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What are we building with all that lumber?
A mountain of fire wood for the winter..... Like I paid for small load in
the morning and then in the afternoon a tree guy I know calls me
and says he has a trailer full of ash wood
for me if I wanted it for free ...... Murpheys Law....

I can pretty much heat the house with a fire going
so it will get burnt through this winter
 

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A mountain of fire wood for the winter..... Like I paid for small load in
the morning and then in the afternoon a tree guy I know calls me
and says he has a trailer full of ash wood
for me if I wanted it for free ...... Murpheys Law....

I can pretty much heat the house with a fire going
so it will get burnt through this winter

Do you have like a Hardy Furnace outside with hydraunic piping system? i hooked one up for a guy a long time ago at his log cabin deep in the woods, supplied hot water for his water heater and heat unit. Just a big metal box outside with a heat exhanger. pretty cool but you have to feed it fire wood.

he had one of these. not sure which model, it was probably 15yrs or so ago. Official Hardy Heater Website, From The Maker, Hardy Mfg. Co., Inc.
 

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Do you have like a Hardy Furnace outside with hydraunic piping system? i hooked one up for a guy a long time ago at his log cabin deep in the woods, supplied hot water for his water heater and heat unit. Just a big metal box outside with a heat exhanger. pretty cool but you have to feed it fire wood.

he had one of these. not sure which model, it was probably 15yrs or so ago. Official Hardy Heater Website, From The Maker, Hardy Mfg. Co., Inc.

Nope, just a fireplace upstairs and a fireplace downstairs
We only use the one upstairs and rarely fire up the one
in the basement....

it takes a shi/load of lumber to heat your home for the winter
and you can go through quite a lot of wood in a short while so
I just start stacking it early and hope I got enough for the season
we heat with gas and the wood is just supplemental

I have thought about putting a wood burning stove down in the basement
because I have a full chimmney going out the roof not being used any more
but the wife is not fond of that idea
 

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I don’t turn the heat on in my house until it gets to below 65 degrees during the day and below 60 at night.

We have these things called blankets that we use to keep us warm and even one that plugs into the wall and heats up. It’s an electric blanket.

I have a wood burning fireplace for fun.

I have a 4 ton heat pump and a 1 ton minisplit heat pump. Both have heat strips if I want to use them.
 

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Don't let them bother you Mark. If I could find a good box truck I would have one too. And just like the Isuzu cabover 14' box I had last time I would have a couple of water heaters on there. I had a little of everything on there and could do most jobs along with the "while you are here" jobs without rescheduling or running all over town. I spent my time making money.
Had room for all my drain cleaning equipment too and no need to unload half of the truck to get to stuff.
 

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Don't let them bother you Mark. If I could find a good box truck I would have one too. And just like the Isuzu cabover 14' box I had last time I would have a couple of water heaters on there. I had a little of everything on there and could do most jobs along with the "while you are here" jobs without rescheduling or running all over town. I spent my time making money.
Had room for all my drain cleaning equipment too and no need to unload half of the truck to get to stuff.
Sometimes the "while you are here" jobs are the best. Little things they would just live with because someone tried fixing it and failed, then you get to be the hero. I hate it when the office tells a customer I only have X time so I can only fix certain things. I am here, now is the time to take care of things, so I do. I tell them don't worry, let's just get it done. Never had the office complain I took too long yet.
 
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A lot of the customers I work for live in custom homes.

So when you need parts or replacements it’s usually specialty colors or finishes. It’s decorator showroom faucets, not big box $50 faucets.

I can’t remember when the last time I had to go to supply house for a common everyday part.

Being over prepared loads the truck down wasting fuel and putting unnecessary wear on the truck and as the saying goes, “ you can’t carry everything “ still applies.

I’ve met guys that Carry around 50 - 3/4” sweat valves, whole bags of fittings. Enough stock on the truck to pipe two houses.

I’d rather stock a few of each fitting and replenish the bins of the truck from my shop once a week I as needed.
 

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Don't let them bother you Mark. If I could find a good box truck I would have one too. And just like the Isuzu cabover 14' box I had last time I would have a couple of water heaters on there. I had a little of everything on there and could do most jobs along with the "while you are here" jobs without rescheduling or running all over town. I spent my time making money.
Had room for all my drain cleaning equipment too and no need to unload half of the truck to get to stuff.
Why can’t you find a good box truck ? I see plenty online for sale.
 

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Why can’t you find a good box truck ? I see plenty online for sale.
Used trucks with low mileage are as rare as hens teeth right now.. If you want to shell out
about 9k for a 1996 ford box truck with 270,000 miles on it then you will find your special
log-wagon on E-bay....

I recently inquired about some new 2022 14foot chevy box trucks I saw and they were available
if you wanted to shell out about 65,000 plus 7% tax plus getting it plated.... So you were into
a new truck for about 75k without any frills.... then you put a wrap on it and make the insides
the way you want it... so you are pushing 80k....

I realize that it is just a payment but still that is fairly steep in my opinion..
Everything I got is used and is paid off ....and I am too cheap to shell out that
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Don't let them bother you Mark. If I could find a good box truck I would have one too. And just like the Isuzu cabover 14' box I had last time I would have a couple of water heaters on there. I had a little of everything on there and could do most jobs along with the "while you are here" jobs without rescheduling or running all over town. I spent my time making money.
Had room for all my drain cleaning equipment too and no need to unload half of the truck to get to stuff.

They dont bother me at all... I know what works best for me and my situation...
We have had utility bed type trucks in the 60s and then went to Vans long ago
then I had to try the box truck and I wont go back to a van again.

The box trucks just make things flow smoother --Like Satruday afternoon I installed
a 40 gallon gas in a garage$$$ then I went and installed a 50 gallon electric in a basement $$
I had them both with me and I was home by 5 pm....
 

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For me it comes down to how many times do I get an emergency call for a common water heater while I’m away from the office……AND actually have time to do that emergency job because I’m not busy already.

Then I weigh that against the negatives of hauling around unnecessary weight and valuable stock.

The answer is obvious for me.

99.99999% of the water heaters I do, I leave the office knowing I’m installing water heaters that day. I tell my regular customers with old water heaters to replace them by scheduling rather than wait until you have no hot water and it’s an emergency.

If they don’t want to do that then when their heater leaks they can do without until the next day or call someone else……plenty of plumbers in town other than me.
 

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............. I recently inquired about some new 2022 14foot chevy box trucks I saw and they were available
if you wanted to shell out about 65,000 plus 7% tax plus getting it plated.... So you were into
a new truck for about 75k without any frills.... then you put a wrap on it and make the insides
the way you want it... so you are pushing 80k....

I realize that it is just a payment but still that is fairly steep in my opinion..
Everything I got is used and is paid off ....and I am too cheap to shell out that
much money
The silly thing is, many people don't think it's worth the effort to buy a used truck for cheap and then co-ordinate having a crate engine swapped in, some minor paint/bodywork done, and the frame cleaned/rust proofed.

I know guys who like diesels have learned this lesson, fixing an old diesel can be a lot less headache than dealing with the new ones held to stricter emissions standards, cheaper too.

The 2014 E-250 I drive was ~15k$ 5 years ago with ~25k miles on it, old rental van. At 75K miles a couple years ago a sparkplug fell apart and took out a cylinder so they put a new crate engine in it and swapped over the alternator, steering pump, etc. for under 7k$. In the next year or so it will get some rust on the bottom of the side doors and rear quarter panels taken care of, shouldn't be too bad.

If the maintenance down time of an old van can be co-ordinated with the plumber taking a vacation it all works out pretty good.
 
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