[KCPlumb]

Has anyone in the forum ever have a press valve leak After installation?

 

[skoronesa]

Not like that. That crimp cracked the brass. What brand? We use Red-White mostly, sometimes Apollo or Jomar. I prefer the Jomar.

 

[ROCKSTARPLUMBER]

I’d like to know what brand that is too please. But that looks like a factory defect. That’s a nasty crack too. Looks like it was dropped and cracked.

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

It’s either Wolverine brass or Bluefin, which I believe are the same. It’s think Wolverine has them made by bluefin.

 

[KCPlumb]

Not like that. That crimp cracked the brass. What brand? We use Red-White mostly, sometimes Apollo or Jomar. I prefer the Jomar.

Midland is the name on the handle. It’s it my own house, so I’ve turned it into a science experiment!

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

Midland is the name on the handle. It’s it my own house, so I’ve turned it into a science experiment!

I bet midland is made by or makes Bluefin.

I think there is one manufacturer making valves for a lot of different companies. I’m trying to track down who owns who

 

[ROCKSTARPLUMBER]

At least is was in your house and not someone else’s.

 

[KCPlumb]

I’d like to know what brand that is too please. But that looks like a factory defect. That’s a nasty crack too. Looks like it was dropped and cracked. View attachment 135747

That’s a casting mark.

 

[jakewilcox]

Not like that. That crimp cracked the brass. What brand? We use Red-White mostly, sometimes Apollo or Jomar. I prefer the Jomar.

What do you like about the Jomar?

Mostly we use R&W.

For years one of my engineers (with whom, I have a great relationship) swears that all of the valves are essentially the same. I’ve used Jomar, but I don’t remember the difference.

I’m curious about why you were formed your opinion. And I very much prefer if I can get engineers to spec individual pieces. It makes cost control a lot easier on larger projects.

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

The markings are the same for the Midland, wolverine brass and Bluefin.

I’ve found that bluefin is a made up brand by supplyhouse.com.

it’s all coming out of a factory in china. Bet

 

[ROCKSTARPLUMBER]

The markings are the same for the Midland, wolverine brass and Bluefin.

I’ve found that bluefin is a made up brand by supplyhouse.com.

it’s all coming out of a factory in china. Bet

I love supply house .com. They beat the sh!t out of everyone else when I ordered 136 gas control valves with self ignition.

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

I love supply house .com. They beat the sh!t out of everyone else when I ordered 136 gas control valves with self ignition.

I buy from them for convenience. Order from the app and they ship quick.

 

[skoronesa]

What do you like about the Jomar?

Mostly we use R&W.

For years one of my engineers (with whom, I have a great relationship) swears that all of the valves are essentially the same. I’ve used Jomar, but I don’t remember the difference.

I’m curious about why you were formed your opinion. And I very much prefer if I can get engineers to spec individual pieces. It makes cost control a lot easier on larger projects.

Keep in mind each manufacturer offers multiple variations of the same style of valve but here is why I liked the Jomars we WERE getting compared to the Red-White.

Here's my post from a couple years ago......

How often do you stop them up? You know you're only supposed to use like a half a slice when you do the bread trick.

For basic ball valves the supply house sends chinese RWV brand but if you want a bleeder which I always do they send Jomar. Those Jomar valves are the kitty's titty. Talk about quality. My only complaint would be the bleeder is a bit small but other than that I love them. Very beefy, full port, stainless ball, good packing/nut, stainless nylock nut for the handle, the handle is stainless that won't bend AND it has a tag hole, and most importantly a stout stem that won't shear when the ball gets crustied up. I defy you to find a better brass ball valve.
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JP-110G - Jomar Valve

Now when I order RWV Propress ball valves WITH A BLEEDER they send one that's Made in Italy, all the other RWV valves are made in china. The Jomar's are made in China but the machining is better and they have a nicer cast surface finish too. I made a mistake in my original post, the handles/nuts are chromed steel. They also don't get that stressed look on the press joints.

They were sending me the Jomar Propress valves for a couple years but only when I ordered one with a bleeder. I only stock bleeder valves because when you need one you need one. A while back they started getting the RWV Propress valves with bleeders and dropped the Jomars.

 

[skoronesa]

Am I the only one who wishes they could still order Left or Right valves?

 

[jakewilcox]

Am I the only one who wishes they could still order Left or Right valves?

No. You are most definitely not.

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

Looks like they’re all made in Italy, not china.

Jomar press valves ……the spec sheet says it’s not approved for soft copper.

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

Am I the only one who wishes they could still order Left or Right valves?

Webstone valves you can change the direction of the handle.

 

[skoronesa]

Webstone valves you can change the direction of the handle.

But not the bleeder.

 

[TerryTotoSucks]

But not the bleeder.

Yeah, or the color.😉j

We don’t use those in residential here, no good place to put them, no basements worth speaking of.

 

[skoronesa]

Yeah, or the color.😉j

We don’t use those in residential here, no good place to put them, no basements worth speaking of.

You don't have winter either.