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I know I’ve mentioned it many times, but my Master needs to retire, but wants to sell first. After plumbing for 125 years, his body is shot.

We have a pretty large customer base, mostly residential, apartment complexes, restaurants. Lots of great customers, the kind where you tell them “We gotta fly to the next one, I’ll send a bill in the mail.” And we get paid. As always, we have our PITA customers too.

He’s wanting to sell everything, 17’ 2017 ford cube fully loaded with stock and tools. The stock room, everything.

I Doubt anyone here would be interested in relocating, just in case someone knows someone.

My Master is a wheeler dealer, but is also motivated to sell.

If anyone wants his contact info let me know.

Company name is Hayes Plumbing out of Grand Ledge (Wacusta) if anyone wants to look up reviews. We don’t advertise outside of repeat and referral. With one truck we constantly turn work down. Every plumber in the area has been slammed for the last 4 years, so business is booming.
 

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why aren't you getting it?
Long story. Honestly I’d rather drain clean and do the plumbing work I can legally do. Plus I’d have to hire someone and deal with that nightmare.

If he wasn’t in such bad shape, it would be a part time job for me and I could get busier with my own.
 

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I know I’ve mentioned it many times, but my Master needs to retire, but wants to sell first. After plumbing for 125 years, his body is shot.

We have a pretty large customer base, mostly residential, apartment complexes, restaurants. Lots of great customers, the kind where you tell them “We gotta fly to the next one, I’ll send a bill in the mail.” And we get paid. As always, we have our PITA customers too.

He’s wanting to sell everything, 17’ 2017 ford cube fully loaded with stock and tools. The stock room, everything.

I Doubt anyone here would be interested in relocating, just in case someone knows someone.

My Master is a wheeler dealer, but is also motivated to sell.

If anyone wants his contact info let me know.

Company name is Hayes Plumbing out of Grand Ledge (Wacusta) if anyone wants to look up reviews. We don’t advertise outside of repeat and referral. With one truck we constantly turn work down. Every plumber in the area has been slammed for the last 4 years, so business is booming.



holy crap, after that time and still alive..................................:vs_laugh: :vs_laugh:
 

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holy crap, after that time and still alive..................................:vs_laugh: :vs_laugh:
Funny story. Got a call from a 20+ year customer today. A few weeks ago we installed a couple new C provided Koehler lav faucets in the master bath. Apparently the aerators plugged off and he went to clean them and couldn’t get one back on.

The copper tube was bent to one side so I fixed it. Master told me to get replacement aerators cause Koehler’s suck. Went and got them, handed one to him and went to put mine on. He says “Ahhhh, wrong size.” By that time I was threading mine on.

I turned to the HO and said “After 125 years he’s still learning!”

Laughs all around.
 

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We all want him to buy it
I know. Both time and health play a big factor in my decision to stay in drain cleaning only and not buy.

I’m 42, bad knees already, not bad bad, but there are times I need help getting my 6200 up the stairs when one goes out, same with ribs, and a new elbow pain. Sure cleaning isn’t easy on your body, but add heaters, crawl spaces, old softeners and all the other heavy stuff added to cleaning. I don’t want to physically end up like my master at the age of 60.

I’m pretty decent at cleaning. Lots of tricks. If I actually invested in advertising it would be a full time gig without a doubt! I have a friend who I met here on PZ who was a solo drain cleaner living in CO. His business wasn’t doing good out there. Too many new homes. I told him to move here, plenty of drains, just don’t steal my customers. He’s been doing good! We refer each other out all the time. One month he hit the internet hard! Google, Craigslist... made $17k. Always made it home for dinner.

My goal is 20 working hours, not driving, a week. My body will last longer which means I’ll be able to work longer.
 

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I know. Both time and health play a big factor in my decision to stay in drain cleaning only and not buy.

I’m 42, bad knees already, not bad bad, but there are times I need help getting my 6200 up the stairs when one goes out, same with ribs, and a new elbow pain. Sure cleaning isn’t easy on your body, but add heaters, crawl spaces, old softeners and all the other heavy stuff added to cleaning. I don’t want to physically end up like my master at the age of 60.

I’m pretty decent at cleaning. Lots of tricks. If I actually invested in advertising it would be a full time gig without a doubt! I have a friend who I met here on PZ who was a solo drain cleaner living in CO. His business wasn’t doing good out there. Too many new homes. I told him to move here, plenty of drains, just don’t steal my customers. He’s been doing good! We refer each other out all the time. One month he hit the internet hard! Google, Craigslist... made $17k. Always made it home for dinner.

My goal is 20 working hours, not driving, a week. My body will last longer which means I’ll be able to work longer.

too late on the body bro..I will tell you know you will be inline for replacement knees and im sure some other surgeries to fix torn muscles and tendons ...
did you ever get your knees ex rayed? did they say they are worn out? or do you have torn meniscus? thats what I had and it was PAINFUL AS HELL..but an easy fix with surgery, arthroscopic .....
and DONT WAIT it will only get worse and the older you get recovery is longer...
your master made the fatal mistake of not STOPPING and taking care of his body , if he did he would still be going strong now...
take my warnings to heart..been there done that..and now I feel great and can do anything I have to do...and I can enjoy activities instead of standing in extreme pain...that was from the hips...and they got replaced a few years ago..
 

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too late on the body bro..I will tell you know you will be inline for replacement knees and im sure some other surgeries to fix torn muscles and tendons ...
did you ever get your knees ex rayed? did they say they are worn out? or do you have torn meniscus? thats what I had and it was PAINFUL AS HELL..but an easy fix with surgery, arthroscopic .....
and DONT WAIT it will only get worse and the older you get recovery is longer...
your master made the fatal mistake of not STOPPING and taking care of his body , if he did he would still be going strong now...
take my warnings to heart..been there done that..and now I feel great and can do anything I have to do...and I can enjoy activities instead of standing in extreme pain...that was from the hips...and they got replaced a few years ago..
My knee issue goes back to the Marine Corps. Long story short, I was in an advanced waiting group called Lead waiting to pick up A school. PT for 5 hrs, 1 hour of Marine Corps history, then free. The alternative was 12hrs/day, stripping and polishing floors over and over and sitting fire watch at the end of a hallway logging Marines as they came and went.

We alternated PT. 20 mile formation run one day, weight room the next.... that sort of stuff. One weight day they didn’t give us the 15 minute warning so we could stretch before running back to the barracks. I had just set a personal record for leg press when they called. After about three minutes of running I felt a major pop in my knee. Hurt like hell! I didn’t see the Corpsman because I would’ve been dropped from Lead and spend an extra three months doing useless mind numbing work before picking up A school.

Every morning I’d pop 4-5 800mg ibuprofen followed by another similar dose after PT. Stupid I know, but I wanted to get to the fleet.

That, reported after the fact, among a few other medical issues got me 100% VA medical. All I pay is for non service related prescriptions. Last time I had to pay for meds it was $8/mo.

I don’t use the VA anymore. Not because of anything bad on them, I always got excellent care! When I went there I had private insurance that the VA would bill to bring money in to help the agency care for all. Once my wife’s job decided that if a spouse has access to a different insurance option they wouldn’t cover the spouse I stopped going.

There are vets far worse off than me and deserve it more.

I haven’t had my knee checked out since seps, but have had my hearing checked and attempted a scope down my throat. Apparently I woke up during the procedure and pulled the camera out.

My body is odd. Knee will bug me for a month then be fine. Next month it’ll be my dislocated rib, then it’s the elbow’s turn. Once in a while I don’t have any pain at all.
 

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Why don't you wear neoprene braces for your knees? I wore a heavy duty one with metal hinges for years until my knee didn't hurt anymore. Or get custom braces done? I had a custom brace done but since my legs are built like a strongman they kept sliding down and the only I could think of was to make some straps to my waist. I put them away and used the neoprene.

Second thing with heavy drain machines, you'll have to buy the milwaukee drain machine stair climber or get yourself a staircat or a sectional.

Do you use a knee board if you have to kneel? I have 2 in the truck.
 

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Why don't you wear neoprene braces for your knees? I wore a heavy duty one with metal hinges for years until my knee didn't hurt anymore. Or get custom braces done? I had a custom brace done but since my legs are built like a strongman they kept sliding down and the only I could think of was to make some straps to my waist. I put them away and used the neoprene.

Second thing with heavy drain machines, you'll have to buy the milwaukee drain machine stair climber or get yourself a staircat or a sectional.

Do you use a knee board if you have to kneel? I have 2 in the truck.
I’ve tried knee braces, not for me. If we have a bust up I use gardening knee pads. But most of the time I’m in the low kneeling position when running a cable. (Obviously not in sewage.)
 

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My knee issue goes back to the Marine Corps. Long story short, I was in an advanced waiting group called Lead waiting to pick up A school. PT for 5 hrs, 1 hour of Marine Corps history, then free. The alternative was 12hrs/day, stripping and polishing floors over and over and sitting fire watch at the end of a hallway logging Marines as they came and went.

We alternated PT. 20 mile formation run one day, weight room the next.... that sort of stuff. One weight day they didn’t give us the 15 minute warning so we could stretch before running back to the barracks. I had just set a personal record for leg press when they called. After about three minutes of running I felt a major pop in my knee. Hurt like hell! I didn’t see the Corpsman because I would’ve been dropped from Lead and spend an extra three months doing useless mind numbing work before picking up A school.

Every morning I’d pop 4-5 800mg ibuprofen followed by another similar dose after PT. Stupid I know, but I wanted to get to the fleet.

That, reported after the fact, among a few other medical issues got me 100% VA medical. All I pay is for non service related prescriptions. Last time I had to pay for meds it was $8/mo.

I don’t use the VA anymore. Not because of anything bad on them, I always got excellent care! When I went there I had private insurance that the VA would bill to bring money in to help the agency care for all. Once my wife’s job decided that if a spouse has access to a different insurance option they wouldn’t cover the spouse I stopped going.

There are vets far worse off than me and deserve it more.

I haven’t had my knee checked out since seps, but have had my hearing checked and attempted a scope down my throat. Apparently I woke up during the procedure and pulled the camera out.

My body is odd. Knee will bug me for a month then be fine. Next month it’ll be my dislocated rib, then it’s the elbow’s turn. Once in a while I don’t have any pain at all.





after your brew meets....:vs_laugh:
you still need to have your knee and elbow looked at, MRI the minimum to see whats going on inside...the longer you wait the worse it will be....because one day the pain wont go away and then it will get worse...
 

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after your brew meets....:vs_laugh:
you still need to have your knee and elbow looked at, MRI the minimum to see whats going on inside...the longer you wait the worse it will be....because one day the pain wont go away and then it will get worse...
The brew helps. Lol! Honestly though. After my GERD surgery... took a year to learn how to eat and drink again. A low carbonated stout before dinner helps. When it acts up I can feel a bite of mashed potatoes just sit there at my LES. The worst is when it happens at a restaurant. I eat 1/4 of my order and ask for a to go box. Kinda embarrassing.
 

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A knee board is way more comfortable. This one looks like what I have.

https://www.amazon.ca/QLT-MARSHALLT...rds=Kneeling+board&qid=1580432245&s=hi&sr=1-2

Knee boards are a joke...
So why dont you just go to Harbor freight and buy yourself 3 or 4 pairs of knee pads you strap on and wear all day long???? They only cost about 4 bucks a pair......

I wear them all day long and they make me like superman just banging around in gravel or whatever lies before me on the job.....

they are cheap and the velcro straps will wear out quickly.
If you have ever drove a trim nail into your keee cap then you know why you need to wear them.....

they are well worth the money and will save your body a lot of strain and stress....


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Knee boards are a joke...
So why dont you just go to Harbor freight and buy yourself 3 or 4 pairs of knee pads you strap on and wear all day long???? They only cost about 4 bucks a pair......

I wear them all day long and they make me like superman just banging around in gravel or whatever lies before me on the job.....

they are cheap and the velcro straps will wear out quickly.
If you have ever drove a trim nail into your keee cap then you know why you need to wear them.....

they are well worth the money and will save your body a lot of strain and stress....


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When I started out I used knee pads but it was damn annoying the straps chaffing behind the knee, always rearranging my pants that would raise up and the worst part is they'd get compressed flat within a day and didn't cushion enough. I tried several kinds and I also tried buying 2 pairs and stacking them, freaking bull$hit.

The kneeling board was my savior. thick plastic tray that you can lay down in water and debris, nothing will poke you. The pad is thick enough for my knees.

If I forget one at a customer I have a spare even that I made a 50 mile trip to get it back when I forgot it. Unfortunately they sold it only once in store and I didn't see any on the net for the next 10 years. Now they are available online and in the spring I'll order new ones since they are starting to be compressed after over 10 years of daily use.

Knock on my knee board I don't have knee pain.
 

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The brew helps. Lol! Honestly though. After my GERD surgery... took a year to learn how to eat and drink again. A low carbonated stout before dinner helps. When it acts up I can feel a bite of mashed potatoes just sit there at my LES. The worst is when it happens at a restaurant. I eat 1/4 of my order and ask for a to go box. Kinda embarrassing.

some girl I was seeing along time ago had reflux issues and after some exrays because of an auto accident they found her stomach was out of place and was causing issues, so they had to move it back down into the normal spot and tie it off so it didnt move again...
 

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When I started out I used knee pads but it was damn annoying the straps chaffing behind the knee, always rearranging my pants that would raise up and the worst part is they'd get compressed flat within a day and didn't cushion enough. I tried several kinds and I also tried buying 2 pairs and stacking them, freaking bull$hit.

The kneeling board was my savior. thick plastic tray that you can lay down in water and debris, nothing will poke you. The pad is thick enough for my knees.

If I forget one at a customer I have a spare even that I made a 50 mile trip to get it back when I forgot it. Unfortunately they sold it only once in store and I didn't see any on the net for the next 10 years. Now they are available online and in the spring I'll order new ones since they are starting to be compressed after over 10 years of daily use.

Knock on my knee board I don't have knee pain.

early in life knee pads were for pu$$ies :vs_OMG:so of course nails and small pebbles embedded in your knees was the manly thing to do :surprise: ..then common sense took over but far too late and protecting your knees after they started to hurt :crying: was now the right thing todo...
I have several pair of gel knee pads, one set has a solid thick velcro elastic band that goes behind my knee so I dont get that uncomfortable pinch...
now they are the first thing I grab if I have to work on my knees at all...
I can see where a kneeling board would be better than knee pads and cases where knee pads make much more sense than balancing a kneeling board on any kind of framing or non flat surface you have to work on...


buy both and use them whenever you can....


did a quick search on amazon and found these that go directly on your leg under your pants, almost like a knee brace with a big front padded area..
https://www.amazon.com/McDavid-Sorb...&keywords=gel+knee+pads&qid=1580482324&sr=8-7
 
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