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I don't think you are getting what I'm saying lolololololo
I guess am getting what you are saying,,,, for some reason you are stuck on some kind of
a multi story condo project thinking that they would all have gas water heaters in them ....
and I suppose that would be a venting nightmare..... but most multi story condos around here
normally install electric water heaters in the units.....

so what are we debating about??


I dont know what the hell any of this has got to do with
about 400 Rheem water heaters installed in single story condo patio homes in huge sub divisions
and what that has got to do with the venting in each single story unit. out their separate roofs??.

So maybe its your covid spell you are having right now that is doing the thinking ??.....

I suggest that you dont make any life changing decisions until you are well healed up again..

get well soon ---- seriously.....take care of yourself...
 

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Still can't get ahold of Rheem, looks like it's going to be more trouble than it's worth trying to get them to warranty a gas control. I think i'm just going to talk my guy into replacing the water heater.
 

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Still can't get ahold of Rheem, looks like it's going to be more trouble than it's worth trying to get them to warranty a gas control. I think i'm just going to talk my guy into replacing the water heater.
Try getting with the local supply house for the warranty.... instead of calling Rheem directly
Normally they will give you the parts for free and you just return the old junk with the information
 

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We set a new company record this week....

Changed out 8 gas controls since last Satruday
I am very happy that I bought about 25 gas controls
on line as a back up plan...... Our supply house is re-imbursing me
for the labor and the valves but its still not enough

we had a long lull for about 10 days right after I bought those valves
but now its hitting hard with x-mas coming next week.... I expect the
crap to really hit the fan on x-mas eve...

I might get on line and buy another half a dozen valves just in case...
they dont never spoil
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I dont think that this
is gonna end until every last damn one of them is changed out
 

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I might get on line and buy another half a dozen valves just in case...
they dont never spoil
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I dont think that this
is gonna end until every last damn one of them is changed out
Sounds to me like the Federal Pacific breaker scandal. No one likes the idea of a faulty gas valve, with this many failing, even the good ones will be suspect. You should buy every one you can and sell them for twice the price.
 

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Sounds to me like the Federal Pacific breaker scandal. No one likes the idea of a faulty gas valve, with this many failing, even the good ones will be suspect. You should buy every one you can and sell them for twice the price.
This is nowhere near as bad as when Smith had bad dip tubes in all their water heaters back in 98....
that was pretty ugly..... with clogged up faucets, dishwashers and washing machines.... I stayed out of that mess

We are doing the Richmond heaters from the hardware stores like menards for $300 to $350 each and
letting them turn in the warranty information to rheem themselves.... They will eventually get the money
out of them but I am not gonna do all that paperwork.... I leave them our bill and they sit on the phone and
do the work

Todays heater was the worst one I have tangled with in a few months....
 

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This is nowhere near as bad as when Smith had bad dip tubes in all their water heaters back in 98....
that was pretty ugly..... with clogged up faucets, dishwashers and washing machines.... I stayed out of that mess
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We still have some of those diptubes in the shop. Occasionally we still change one.
 
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I use 1/2" soft copper if I nedd a dip tube,just flare the end on it
Same, much better than plastic and I always have it on the van.
 

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I use 1/2" soft copper if I nedd a dip tube,just flare the end on it
So you still have a flaring tool in your truck??

That is about the only tool I have shi/canned
and have not used in probably 25 years...


I get the honor of changing out another gas valve in the next few days...
they are shipping out the valve overnight to the customer....

I told them 200 bucks and they were thrilled....
I must be too cheap because all of the other big boys in
town wont touch one for under 400.....

It is not brain surgery....
 

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So you still have a flaring tool in your truck??

That is about the only tool I have shi/canned
and have not used in probably 25 years...

I get the honor of changing out another gas valve ........
Some of us run copper for gas lines.
 
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So you still have a flaring tool in your truck??

That is about the only tool I have shi/canned
and have not used in probably 25 years...


I get the honor of changing out another gas valve in the next few days...
they are shipping out the valve overnight to the customer....

I told them 200 bucks and they were thrilled....
I must be too cheap because all of the other big boys in
town wont touch one for under 400.....

It is not brain surgery....
Smack it with the 440 channel locks lololo
 

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I use 1/2" soft copper if I nedd a dip tube,just flare the end on it
Smack it with the 440 channel locks lololo

you know that I tried smacking those crappy Cit valves with my channel locks
and they just look at me and laugh.... I Gave up on that practice long ago.....
 

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Some of us run copper for gas lines.
I guess they still have purpose

In this state, they will not allow copper on any gas lines
they claim it flakes off and gumms up the gas controls

Propane is ok but the natrual gas lines its going to get red tagged....

I got some real nice almost brand new rigid flaring tools sitting in the garage now for
probably 30 years.....
 

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I guess they still have purpose

In this state, they will not allow copper on any gas lines
they claim it flakes off and gumms up the gas controls

Propane is ok but the natrual gas lines its going to get red tagged....

I got some real nice almost brand new rigid flaring tools sitting in the garage now for
probably 30 years.....
The issue is sulfates in the natural gas that form a black, flaky compound when in contact with copper. It can clog pilots and orifices as the flakes can be so light as not to fall into the sediment trap.

Feel free to send those flaring tools to me ;)
 

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The issue is sulfates in the natural gas that form a black, flaky compound when in contact with copper. It can clog pilots and orifices as the flakes can be so light as not to fall into the sediment trap.

Feel free to send those flaring tools to me ;)

Actually, I will .... its no problem.... I just got to find them
and I will post a picture of them to see if you really want them..

their will be just a small processing fee of 50 bucks.... :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: ..
 

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I have a super nice ridgid flaring tool that I bought as a discontinued item. No diy buys them at HD or any plumber for that matter! My only use is to form brake lines. :p
It has a bubble/double flare attachment?
 
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It has a bubble/double flare attachment?
It didn't come with them but I do have them from a cheap set. I had to make brake lines a couple months ago for the whatchmallit steering rack on my old 4runner. I get a more recent 4Runner there aren't any!
 

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I despise rheem. A little trick I’ve learned for pulling the pilot tube from the gas valve, if you pull it with out breaking it go buy a lottery ticket. For the other times when the brass ferrule sheers off, go grab your drill bits and go two bit smaller than 1/8” and slowly get the aluminum out of the ferrule. Go up one size and drill it out some more then finally get the 1/8” and carefully drill it out to final size. Then put the ferrule back on the tubing and reassemble. This has gotten me out of a jam many times. Also, you’re going to be drilling it out by hand, don’t try it with a drill it’s way too hard to control the speed and how much material you are removing.
 
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