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364 stems. Why can they not just stick with one that works? Like Chicago Faucet, the used the same stem today that they made back in 1918. Guess they never heard of the K.I.S.S. theory.
Kohler sucks
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Kohler is the exact polar opposite of the K.I.S.S. theory. Redwoods toothpaste dispenser says it all.
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Ok. since factory reps are watching I will mention another product that is crap.
B & K faucets. I will get back to yall with a model number of the lav faucet I am talking about. The pop-up assembly is tinker toy. The clip that attaches the lift rod to the pop-up lever will not hold. I have e-mailed the company with no response about this and other problems with them. Some of them leak around the handle as soon as you install it and test it out. It even comes with a wrench to adjust it with. Go figure. I guess they don't care or maybe I wasn't loud enough. :icon_mad:
B & K faucets. I will get back to yall with a model number of the lav faucet I am talking about. The pop-up assembly is tinker toy. The clip that attaches the lift rod to the pop-up lever will not hold. I have e-mailed the company with no response about this and other problems with them. Some of them leak around the handle as soon as you install it and test it out. It even comes with a wrench to adjust it with. Go figure. I guess they don't care or maybe I wasn't loud enough. :icon_mad:
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What do you expect buying that Chinese Crap?:whistling2:
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amen brother. why DOES kohler have so many damn flappers.
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over two weeks waiting on a chrome square escucheon. 3K in the balance. Where the F is Kohler made ? Sudan? Is it coming via camel/steamboat ?
Im so lucky to install their garbage. Just ask them.
Im so lucky to install their garbage. Just ask them.
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I had a problem with Kohler's solf close seat on Friday, new toilet install, couldn't for the life of me get the toilet seat straight! I hate crooked toilet seats.
Toto's soft close seat, the little covers wont stay closed.
If you install enough of whats on the market, you are going to find that every Brand has its issues. Depends of which issues you can live with.
Toto's soft close seat, the little covers wont stay closed.
If you install enough of whats on the market, you are going to find that every Brand has its issues. Depends of which issues you can live with.
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My office toilet is a freebie Cimarron given to me by the Kohler rep about five years ago. Never had a stop up.
Western Pottery is a pretty good flush too.
Western Pottery is a pretty good flush too.
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Western Pottery is probably the best 'Low-End' water closet on the market.
As for Kohler toilets, I stopped recommending them years ago. I still like their tubs, tub/shower valves and waste and overflows, but their KS faucets and lav faucets are junk.
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I have Cimarrons in commercial applications, not one stoppage. A great toilet. Of course, get a high end wood seat :thumbsup:
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Gotta vintage early 90's Kohler one piece, and it's one peice of junk. Looks great but is totally useless......kinda like me. But at least I'm not covered in skidmarks.
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I refer to it as " The Jerk'd-Off look of Kohler".
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I will agree with the OP, kohler sucks. As far as a builders model w/c is concerned i install 2pc pro flow........ im sure someone will refer to me as a hack for this one but they are a fairly well built toilet and the mark up we get from selling the "package" deal from ferguson is purty good. When functionality is important such as a commercial install i recommend any pressure assist on the market, take your pick they all have the same inside parts.
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And as a side note if i may........That Am Std 2pc that you can flush a gank of golf balls down isnt a shabby toilet iffin you can find a dealer with a good price :thumbsup:
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