I just found this site today thanks to my wife and stem made by American Standard that I have never seen. Now that I have asked for help and am waiting for some reply's I can take the time to do a proper intro. As I said, my wife told me to search for plumbing help on the net and what do you know, an entire community online of plumbers. Who said women don't know much. Anyway glad I found this site, it appears to be a place to come and talk shop and seek guidance. I wish I would have known about this place a few years ago. Any I am happy and glad to be here. Check out my question in the help forum. That is the current debacle.