Umm, did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed:whistling2:I want to do a test. I need clear tubing of some sort. maybe the clear PEX?
I am going to install air chambers on my tub and watch to see how long until the air is absorbed.
Anyone have any ideas on how I should do the test?
1/2" or 3/4"
I assume 12" air chambers. Right?
Shall I use clear PEX? It isn't really clear but you could see the water level I think.
Anyone interested in the results?
Water hammer would not be all that noticeable, if at all, using plastic pipe.I want to do a test. I need clear tubing of some sort. maybe the clear PEX?
I am going to install air chambers on my tub and watch to see how long until the air is absorbed.
Anyone have any ideas on how I should do the test?
1/2" or 3/4"
I assume 12" air chambers. Right?
Shall I use clear PEX? It isn't really clear but you could see the water level I think.
Anyone interested in the results?
Huh? I didn't mean anything negative against you. Or anyone. I just keep claiming they are a waste of time and money and few people believe me.Umm, did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed:whistling2:
Using the piping systems you install for water pipe, they are.Huh? I didn't mean anything negative against you. Or anyone. I just keep claiming they are a waste of time and money and few people believe me.
It's not to test water hammer, but the rate the water absorbs the air cushion.Water hammer would not be all that noticeable, if at all, using plastic pipe.
You mean copper?Using the material I use to pipe a condo, they are not.
BTW, what would constitute a waste of time and materials in your opinion?Using the piping systems you install for water pipe, they are.
Using the material I use to pipe a condo, they are not.
My point is this, using PEX is not going to prove your point, because the loss of the cushion is going to be affected by the give in the water line itself, you are not conducting a sound scientific test.BTW, what would constitute a waste of time and materials in your opinion?
Can we agree on a standard here? If the air cushion is absorbed in 90 days? Would you consider that a failure of the intended purpose of the air chamber?
OK, do you have an alternative suggestion that would be transparent and meet your criteria?My point is this, using PEX is not going to prove your point, because the loss of the cushion is going to be affected by the give in the water line itself, you are not conducting a sound scientific test.
You can get clear sch 80 threaded plastic pipe, the price is outrageous though.OK, do you have an alternative suggestion that would be transparent and meet your criteria?
BTW, 1/2" or 3/4", 12" or 18"?
OK, so are you saying that if I put a 12" air chamber on the hot and cold of my tub, you would not consider the results to be valid unless the rest of the fixtures each had one too?You can get clear sch 80 threaded plastic pipe, the price is outrageous though.
12" air chamber at every opening, and a 24" air chamber on the top of every riser.
There are a lot of very intelligent plumbers who disagree with you on this.I believe residential air chambers are useless on metal pipes. They fill up over time.
If you are cherry picking where to use them and where not you are setting them up to fail now aren't you?OK, so are you saying that if I put a 12" air chamber on the hot and cold of my tub, you would not consider the results to be valid unless the rest of the fixtures each had one too?
Just making sure I understand you here.
Also, would you consider them to be a failure if they filled with water in 90 days?