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Gates or Balls, vote and explain. :thumbsup:
Agreed.Ball Valves, Red & White to be specific, MAS are garbage.
if you are soldering a ball valve make sure you have it cracked halfways open to avoid damaging the internals from the heat. Anything over 1 1/2" should have a damp rag wrapped around it while soldering.
Gate Valves for anything under 2 1/2" are garbage. Ball valve should be used, and if you need to throttle the pipe use a globe valve.
Glad I'm not on trial for murder and this forum is my jury. I'd be in prison the rest of my life while waiting for the verdict.Those who are critical of gate valves I believe are really critical of cheap gate valves. Cheap ball valves are much better than cheap gate valves without a doubt. However, if you are really looking for a quality SOV, which will hold up to industrial use, you go with a quality gate valve. There is a reason you don't see 8" ball valves being used. The trick with all gate valves is they need to be exercised on a regular basis.
This means we have been lying to our customers for many years.