Thanks to everyone that replied to my question. Sorry that I didnt say anything about myself sooner ( I am new to this forum lark ) . I live & work in the east midlands ( of britain) . Have been plumbing proffesionally for about 5 years . I started on small jobs & progressed to a new house or two . I do most things . Am Oftec reg, Do complete bathrooms , dont particularly like tiling ,but have to do it sometimes . Am just getting into multi fuel stoves .Do quite a lot of repeat business for nice customers . Thats all I can think of at the moment . Cheers .