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Never ends with tools always want something else.... You get a jetter then you need back hoe to dig it up because sewer is gonezo
My master said he dabbled in excavation for a minute. Liability insurance killed it! I have my excavator, the guys are awesome! Very fast and never a problem with their work.

They’ll be doing my main soon.... I have some pics to post about it in another thread.
 

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My master said he dabbled in excavation for a minute. Liability insurance killed it! I have my excavator, the guys are awesome! Very fast and never a problem with their work.



They’ll be doing my main soon.... I have some pics to post about it in another thread.
From what I hear, digs are where money is. Hell, I'd start a drain cleaning business on the side if everyone would stop telling me I won't make money without digging.

Then again, there are so many possibilities in the way of problems. Fiber lines, cable lines, lives, Miss Dig being horrible at what they do, OSHA in general.
 

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From what I hear, digs are where money is. Hell, I'd start a drain cleaning business on the side if everyone would stop telling me I won't make money without digging.

Then again, there are so many possibilities in the way of problems. Fiber lines, cable lines, lives, Miss Dig being horrible at what they do, OSHA in general.
The way some drain cleaning companies do it out here is hire the excavator company and tack on $1-2k and bill the customer. You can make good money and not have to dig yourself.

The way I look at digging is kinda like the goose with the golden egg. Sometimes it’s necessary, sometimes the customer can’t afford the up front cost and would prefer yearly maintenance. One PMC I work for has me cable 8-12 houses every year, on the same day. We have figured out what houses need prevents and which don’t.... pretty much dictated by me. Skip this one next year, I’d like to add this one next year.

We had a problem house last year. I usually cable this one every year. There are roots, not bad, but they want to make sure that when it backs up from wipes or tampons that roots aren’t a factor. Well this year it was a girls house. College rentals. Two weeks after the kids moved in I got a call that the main was backed up. Cabled it, opened and pulled nothing back. They are such good payers and do everything I tell them, so I just called it warranty. Two weeks later it backed up again! Cabled it ten times, blow bagged it for a half hour, still plugged! Told them to jet. Two weeks later it backed up again! Cabled and video. Line has a small belly out at the street just before the drop. The girls were using three ply TP. $20k to dig and replace, $25k for permits because of the road cut. So we decided to supply the girls there tp and every Friday the maintenance guy would blow bag the line. No issue since. That house will be a boys house from now on.

Yes you can make good money digging, but once you dig, there goes any future revenue. At least that’s how I look at it.
 

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The way some drain cleaning companies do it out here is hire the excavator company and tack on $1-2k and bill the customer. You can make good money and not have to dig yourself.

The way I look at digging is kinda like the goose with the golden egg. Sometimes it’s necessary, sometimes the customer can’t afford the up front cost and would prefer yearly maintenance. One PMC I work for has me cable 8-12 houses every year, on the same day. We have figured out what houses need prevents and which don’t.... pretty much dictated by me. Skip this one next year, I’d like to add this one next year.

We had a problem house last year. I usually cable this one every year. There are roots, not bad, but they want to make sure that when it backs up from wipes or tampons that roots aren’t a factor. Well this year it was a girls house. College rentals. Two weeks after the kids moved in I got a call that the main was backed up. Cabled it, opened and pulled nothing back. They are such good payers and do everything I tell them, so I just called it warranty. Two weeks later it backed up again! Cabled it ten times, blow bagged it for a half hour, still plugged! Told them to jet. Two weeks later it backed up again! Cabled and video. Line has a small belly out at the street just before the drop. The girls were using three ply TP. $20k to dig and replace, $25k for permits because of the road cut. So we decided to supply the girls there tp and every Friday the maintenance guy would blow bag the line. No issue since. That house will be a boys house from now on.

Yes you can make good money digging, but once you dig, there goes any future revenue. At least that’s how I look at it.



That's how I explain it my customers too... It will take 10+ years to pay for excavation... We do all our own digging... So either maintain it or replace it.... Depends what their plans are usually its to remove building trap and install c.o or bwv... Then inspect to road and see how bad the rest of it is..


The way I see it is if your willing to take risk then go for it make the money... If not hire someone to dig and you can replace the drain or sub the job out.... Jetters are a must for restaraunts and laundry mats, storm drain... We do a lot of kitchen riser lower end jetting in the apartment buildings as well as main line jetting...


A jetter really only opens doors.. Tons of things a snake just isn't practical for..


I find that things really get hard to clear with snake when its little old lady or something and drain has been plugged since 1975 sewer turns into septic bed...



... Another thing betters are really good for is weeping tiles and septic tile beds get sludge and mud moving again...


Also tight hoarded houses jetter is wonder ful get drain running see you later
 

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The way some drain cleaning companies do it out here is hire the excavator company and tack on $1-2k and bill the customer. You can make good money and not have to dig yourself.



The way I look at digging is kinda like the goose with the golden egg. Sometimes it’s necessary, sometimes the customer can’t afford the up front cost and would prefer yearly maintenance. One PMC I work for has me cable 8-12 houses every year, on the same day. We have figured out what houses need prevents and which don’t.... pretty much dictated by me. Skip this one next year, I’d like to add this one next year.



We had a problem house last year. I usually cable this one every year. There are roots, not bad, but they want to make sure that when it backs up from wipes or tampons that roots aren’t a factor. Well this year it was a girls house. College rentals. Two weeks after the kids moved in I got a call that the main was backed up. Cabled it, opened and pulled nothing back. They are such good payers and do everything I tell them, so I just called it warranty. Two weeks later it backed up again! Cabled it ten times, blow bagged it for a half hour, still plugged! Told them to jet. Two weeks later it backed up again! Cabled and video. Line has a small belly out at the street just before the drop. The girls were using three ply TP. $20k to dig and replace, $25k for permits because of the road cut. So we decided to supply the girls there tp and every Friday the maintenance guy would blow bag the line. No issue since. That house will be a boys house from now on.



Yes you can make good money digging, but once you dig, there goes any future revenue. At least that’s how I look at it.
Not sure why, but I never really thought about that. Amazing point.
 

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The way some drain cleaning companies do it out here is hire the excavator company and tack on $1-2k and bill the customer. You can make good money and not have to dig yourself.

The way I look at digging is kinda like the goose with the golden egg. Sometimes it’s necessary, sometimes the customer can’t afford the up front cost and would prefer yearly maintenance. One PMC I work for has me cable 8-12 houses every year, on the same day. We have figured out what houses need prevents and which don’t.... pretty much dictated by me. Skip this one next year, I’d like to add this one next year.

We had a problem house last year. I usually cable this one every year. There are roots, not bad, but they want to make sure that when it backs up from wipes or tampons that roots aren’t a factor. Well this year it was a girls house. College rentals. Two weeks after the kids moved in I got a call that the main was backed up. Cabled it, opened and pulled nothing back. They are such good payers and do everything I tell them, so I just called it warranty. Two weeks later it backed up again! Cabled it ten times, blow bagged it for a half hour, still plugged! Told them to jet. Two weeks later it backed up again! Cabled and video. Line has a small belly out at the street just before the drop. The girls were using three ply TP. $20k to dig and replace, $25k for permits because of the road cut. So we decided to supply the girls there tp and every Friday the maintenance guy would blow bag the line. No issue since. That house will be a boys house from now on.

Yes you can make good money digging, but once you dig, there goes any future revenue. At least that’s how I look at it.
How long is that line??why so high??? You can't charge that kind of money in my poor area,no one will pay it
 

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Had a rough one today. The last 25’ on the first pass was super rough! Inch by inch. Still backed up. Pulled it back, probably 30 tampons and one rubber. So I ran out 100’ a second time, got stuck at @ 100’. I don’t know what it was, but I think I was trying to Pull a 6” ball of tampons into the 4” line. Took about 15 minutes to knock whatever it was on my cable.

I could’ve put my extension on, but I didn’t want to fight it again. Ended up referring my jetter guy.

When I showed the HO, she said “I didn’t know you can’t flush those! I thought it was only the applicator that you’re not supposed flush!” She’s in her mid to late 30s would be my guess.

Shook my hand just like the good old days. Her neighbor asked me to look at his laundry drain. Gave him the price to cable it and run it to the stack above ground so he’ll never have the problem again. Nope, too cheap for either. When I went to go in his house he said I have to wear a mask. Apparently his wife’s sister’s something died from COVID 19. Whatever, got a free mask. When I was talking to him I started to have a hard time breathing, and had to take the conversation outside.
 

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Went to some ladies ****hole a while back and didn't want to spend too much money. Asked if I could patch it. Asked her how long has it been like this. She said 2 years.....


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She probably wanted you to pay her to fix it... Nice pic...... Pump it out for a week... Spread some lime.. Then suit up... Figure out what the heck is going on... I'll give you a quote 10 grand to give the quote for the repair
 

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Shook my hand just like the good old days. Her neighbor asked me to look at his laundry drain. Gave him the price to cable it and run it to the stack above ground so he’ll never have the problem again. Nope, too cheap for either. When I went to go in his house he said I have to wear a mask. Apparently his wife’s sister’s something died from COVID 19. Whatever, got a free mask. When I was talking to him I started to have a hard time breathing, and had to take the conversation outside.



We've had covid come just close enough to our area that everyone wears masks in buildings 99% of the time if for no other reason than because we don't want our elderly to catch it and die. Breathing with a mask on in the heat and humidity can be a real pain at times, especially when you're working.



What I think is hilarious is the city folk who wear masks, gloves, etc. but don't know how to use them. If germs were wet paint they would look like a rainbow.




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We've had covid come just close enough to our area that everyone wears masks in buildings 99% of the time if for no other reason than because we don't want our elderly to catch it and die. Breathing with a mask on in the heat and humidity can be a real pain at times, especially when you're working.



What I think is hilarious is the city folk who wear masks, gloves, etc. but don't know how to use them. If germs were wet paint they would look like a rainbow.



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I heard a supply house guy saying his girlfriend is getting near a depression because she hasn't gone out and keeps looking at the news and the world is at an end.

Meanwhile most others are outside and doing things like normal...
 

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I heard a supply house guy saying his girlfriend is getting near a depression because she hasn't gone out and keeps looking at the news and the world is at an end.

Meanwhile most others are outside and doing things like normal...



Sounds to me like she has deeper issues and either has clinical depression or is just an attention whore who has to be hyperbolic over anything she can.




I can't stand hyperbole.




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She probably wanted you to pay her to fix it... Nice pic...... Pump it out for a week... Spread some lime.. Then suit up... Figure out what the heck is going on... I'll give you a quote 10 grand to give the quote for the repair
I quoted to replace entire line and charge her the min fee to go out and boy did she *****. I told her she shouldn't have called 2 years later to make the repair

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When you have a one way clean out, the plug is under slab and you don’t feel like pulling the stool.... I don’t do roofs.... or anything higher than a 6’ ladder.


Everybody knows, the closest/best cleanout to use either has 40 gallons of sewage behind it or the customer doesn't remember where it's buried :plain:



99% of the time when I have a cleanout that doesn't have 40 gallons of sewage behind it, it doesn't matter which way the cleanout points because invariably it's useless either way.



If it is a cleanout I can use but it's on a tee pointing the wrong way I do the same as you.




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Everybody knows, the closest/best cleanout to use either has 40 gallons of sewage behind it or the customer doesn't remember where it's buried :plain:



99% of the time when I have a cleanout that doesn't have 40 gallons of sewage behind it, it doesn't matter which way the cleanout points because invariably it's useless either way.



If it is a cleanout I can use but it's on a tee pointing the wrong way I do the same as you.




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I saw a guy bend his Jetter cable in half about a 6" from the end. so he could go up a clean out backwards. He was able to jet a 4" line backwards up a wye. I tried to do similar and got my jetter cable stuck :vs_laugh::vs_laugh:
 

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I saw a guy bend his Jetter cable in half about a 6" from the end. so he could go up a clean out backwards. He was able to jet a 4" line backwards up a wye. I tried to do similar and got my jetter cable stuck :vs_laugh::vs_laugh:

Done this many times however very hard on hose... Best only to go in under pressure and pull back with jetter off... Use y cleanouts on vertical lines to flush up.. And clean hi rise kitchen lines saves a mess
 

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I saw a guy bend his Jetter cable in half about a 6" from the end. so he could go up a clean out backwards. He was able to jet a 4" line backwards up a wye. I tried to do similar and got my jetter cable stuck :vs_laugh::vs_laugh:
Back when I used a jetter and was able to shoot upstream I’d do the same as manholes, use a chunk of 1-1/2” pvc with a street 45 glued, works with a cable too. Not in all situations though... for sure with a hose if you try!
 

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The cursed house from hell

It has been decided that this deserves its own thread.. Welcome to drain tech diaries.. a day in the life of a drain tech.. no soldering here no faucet repairs.. This is the down and dirty side of plumbing.. When skat hits the fan this is the kind of scenarios you will see.. My area has it all New build, old , older and oldest.. so your going to see the different ways things are set up drainage wise and hopefully we'll get a laugh or two..


I'm going to try keep this thread alive by minimum weekly posts depending on what i am doing but Strictly drain cleaning and drain related stuff.. I'm a workaholic so honestly it shouldn't be an issue for material its getting footage that'll be hard.. If anyone has any ideas all I've got is a cellphone right now maybe an upgrade in equipment will come depends on how things pan out.


And make sure you guys like and subscribe maybe one day it'll help me out Im a broke azz Canuck ehh. I appreciate all who read and watch , dont be afraid to tell me im a idiot or at least let me know what you want to see.. like give me ideas too.. Im only so creative.




Starting a thread to post the worst of the worst you have come across... I'm talking about stuff that plumbers nightmares are composed of. Horror stories. Poo and anything that comes out of the drain nice root pics are encouraged too. I'm gonna start with a pic and a video.. Stories encouraged..pics and video links to provide visual.. better..

Sewer spoons.. ratatouille next to boiler

Sludge factor https://youtu.be/oIscBbB4wwU
The cursed house from hell
OK so a little over a year ago, one of longtime customers calls me on a Saturday or Sunday night cant remember which. their entire home is backing up and sewer is overflowing out of the showers. so i get ready and head their way, and low and behold they werent kidding, literally ****e everywhere all overthis expensive imported wood flooring. anyways i called out a water extraction company and a pumper truck yes water extraction and pumper truck. the entire right side of home was tied in off of a branch line 15ft under the slab straight ahead from the cleanout in backyard . and the only bathroom not affected was the master with was also straight ahead from the cleaount. so running it from cleanout wouldnt work had to pull toilet that was also affected nearest the combo that connected the branch to main. but couldnt do it with pumping down the system below finish slab level. finally able to pull to toilet, ran about 15 ft and cleared line. as i am retrieving the cable all i could hear was water sloshing inside the drainline. and not a single echo one. im thinking on one hand $$$ one the other this isnt gonna be good news for them. especially since they just recently purchased the home less than a year ago. and i thinking damnit i told them before signing to perform a thorough inspection not just one the realtors get. so i go immediately grab my camera, and not 20% or 50% or 75% but 100% completely full and holding water major belly in the line. the entire length even afteri hit the combo on the end of the branch, and turned into the main heading out to the cleanout. same thing 100 full. so i showed the customerswhat i had found so far, they automatically knew it was expensive, the house they sold we had done the same type of work on that home as well. i didnt have to say a word or even give a price they just said when can you start. i told them let me finish running the camera, i wanted to make sure i knew everything that was needing fixed before sitting down to talk. so i go furthest bathroom on that branch pull that toilet, and it was fine for the first 30-35 ft then i hit water which was around 20ft before the powder room toilet where i ran cable from
long story short they needed 80ft tunnel. move forward a year this was around when covid19 began to hit and they were locking down and doing stay at home. they had heir parents staying with them, so my tech went unstopped the line said it was grease the stopped up that side of the house again. then come 2 more stoppages come after than each time worse and worse. everyone keeps telling they are pouring grease down the sink. im thinking since when does a 2" line with some grease stop up a 4" completely and cause it to overflow again. im thinking ive never seen or heard of that but everyone says the same thing. ran camera in mainline found minute traces of grease but not enough to constitute running the jetter. well the week before last, it happened again, this time i went out, originally thinking that maybe since there were more people staying there, maybe it was someone flushing items that should be. and to my dismay, big ass chunks and i mean bright white solid blocks of grease in the mainline with yep you guess it catching tissue paper and eventually catching enough to block system. determined that the kitchen line was tied in near the center where the major belly was. so that line hadnt flowed properly since it was built, oh what i failed to mention that the plumbers did not sleeve the piping running through the beams, which allowed the concrete to push down on the main causing the belly. anyways so since the kitchen line never flowed porperly it slowly allowed grease to cool of rapidly because the belly caused a domino effect where water was holding in the kitchen also. and since the issue had been fixed, now the kitchen is flowing properly, and has starting break the grease buildup apart and and now its dumping into the main. now here lies the issue and why i call it THE CURSED HOUSE FROM HELL we have ran 2 different cable machines with grease cutter heads, however if i ever met the dumbass who did the rough inn the first thing that would come to my mind is to stuff him inside the tunnel as we backfilledit, but i love my freedom to much to go to jail and lose my freedom over an idiot like him. anyways, instead of stubbing up below the window directly under the sink location, and doing a rolling offset to go around the window with the vent. instead they stub up like 6ft away, then arm over. which in return truly limits our options as far as the size of of cable and type of head. had it been directly under sink even though the .55 cable ofmy spartan 300 technically is big for 2" but had they stubbed up below the sink you could easily slighly bend it enough to make the turn and go down. however the way it is, cant control the end enough all it does is dead head against the san t. and the only cable flexible enough dont have a head bid enough to truly do it justice, been there already and still dumps grease chunks. now i to the point where you guys since you heard the word grease have been screaming jetter jetter. yep been there also. but the 1/2 3000 psi jetter hose is also to damn stiff it dead head in the san t also. cant get it to turn and drop. then the 3/8 1500-2000 psi jetter hose is limber enough to drop down into the san t but no matter what we have tried it wont turn the 90 just below the slab. its not ridged enough its actually too damn limber. cant cut hole in wall to access it that way i would have to pull cabinets other side there's brick, and a custom brick not everyday acme brick. and yep thought of using the vent also but guess what, no vent about the kitchen its a 2 story home and the vent comes up 25-30ft at the rear of home. the only other option ive been able to think of, is something that is a complete pain in the ass for those who have had to do it before. run you machine all the way out to the cleanout, pull it out, tape jetter hose to it. and manually pull it back through the system. however i would have to hit 3 different branches to do that. the cleanout is 4" deep, im not sure if my mind isnt letting me to think clearly enough because of how piss i am at how much time we already wasted on something that technically isnt under warranty and has nothing to with our work. however the customerpaid me fixfix their system and its still isnt fix, and they know it has nothing to do with our work. i just cant allow this home to keep backing up.
im all ears to someone who has faced the same situation as far as getting that jetter in there main that had a different solution that isnt coming to my mind. i do know mac had mentioned something about a sectional machine, but ive never even heard of one much less seen one. must be an easier way that im just blocking itout and not allowingto enter my brain. hell maybe its the sunup to sundown hours and over night ours ive been working. if anyone has another way that has worked for them. i would appreciate yall sending me a text message. 936-524-6353. i gottaget this done so i can move onto the next fire i gotta put out
 
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