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The more I look into door-to-door canvassing the more sense it makes. We have been progressing slow, but we did sell $63,500 since March 20th.

Sometimes, I think I have something that is going to work perfect and then it does not work so well. We delivered 400 flyers offering free drain cleaning. We received 10 leads on the first day and I sold a job on the first lead for $4400. We also had a neighbor across the street from the job and we thought she was going to buy about $6,000 to $12,000, but she chickened out by postponing many appointments.

This is the strange part. We sold the first and only job from the free drain service about 10 days ago. During the past week we sold two jobs from door-to-door canvassing for about $42,000. Each job was over $20,000.

My point is; the actual door knocking has been getting the best sales. We are still working out the bugs and will be adding about three more door knockers. If each one gets about $60,000 per month in sales, we will get about $240,000 per month. This seems to be an average figure for door knockers because I spoke with canvassers from other companies and they always tell me each door knocker gets about $40,000 to $60,000 per month in sales. We are closing large sales from about 1 of every three leads, or maybe almost 50% of the homes we get into. I don't have enough data yet, but the numbers are very high. This is being accomplished because we are targeting homes that are 50 to 80 years old. Almost every home has a need for something that we sell.

Anyway, if you need more business give this serious consideration.
 

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im having a hard time believeing one salesman can sell 60,000 in plumbing work per month going door to door.

personally I would be offended if someone came to my door trying to sell me any type of home improvement services.

maybe i am wrong, just my opinion.
 

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60K in one month man I could pay my house off with that.:eek:
 
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We started door to door here. We got a cease and desist order. Turns out you need a provincal license for that sort of marketing. The rules are pretty strick and of course there are many fees to be paid as well as an amount to be put into trust for the government.
Too big of a pain. However, we can still go door to door to introduce the company, we just cannot sell while uninvited.
 

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well I guess it's possible $2000+ a day
wow I would be happy with 500 a day up here I would be loaded.
I gots lots of poor folk around here.
Waste of my talents living up here :cry:
 

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PCP, you are definitely on something here...What part of the country you in? Rural or city?


The more I look into door-to-door canvassing the more sense it makes. We have been progressing slow, but we did sell $63,500 since March 20th.

Sometimes, I think I have something that is going to work perfect and then it does not work so well. We delivered 400 flyers offering free drain cleaning. We received 10 leads on the first day and I sold a job on the first lead for $4400. We also had a neighbor across the street from the job and we thought she was going to buy about $6,000 to $12,000, but she chickened out by postponing many appointments.

This is the strange part. We sold the first and only job from the free drain service about 10 days ago. During the past week we sold two jobs from door-to-door canvassing for about $42,000. Each job was over $20,000.

My point is; the actual door knocking has been getting the best sales. We are still working out the bugs and will be adding about three more door knockers. If each one gets about $60,000 per month in sales, we will get about $240,000 per month. This seems to be an average figure for door knockers because I spoke with canvassers from other companies and they always tell me each door knocker gets about $40,000 to $60,000 per month in sales. We are closing large sales from about 1 of every three leads, or maybe almost 50% of the homes we get into. I don't have enough data yet, but the numbers are very high. This is being accomplished because we are targeting homes that are 50 to 80 years old. Almost every home has a need for something that we sell.

Anyway, if you need more business give this serious consideration.
 

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I'm in Los Angeles with.......

PCP, you are definitely on something here...What part of the country you in? Rural or city?
a population of 11,000,000 people. Right now I am on the California and Nevada state line near Las Vegas and I've been watching this flu outbreak to see if I need to get out of Los Angeles before riots break out. Today, I purchased a home in Sandy Valley Nevada. Look that up on Google Earth if you want to see a desolate desert down and the name 'sandy' was given to the town for a good reason.

To answer other responses to this thread, when I post numbers I try to make them as accurate as possible. I can't see where a person could get self-satisfaction by exaggerating numbers. You are welcome to visit my shop any time and spend a few hours, or a few days with us. I always say there is so much work and money out there one or two more contractors copying what I do will not make a significant impact on my business. I am a very positive-thinking, confident, and focused person and I consistently and constantly work to improve every aspect of my business.

At the same time, I picked up a lot of ideas from every forum and give credit to the forums for many things I do. Many of the things I do are posted by other members, but I believe many people need to keep hearing, many times, what the real potentials are before it really sinks in.
Contractors may want to take a look at how a change in a CEO can take a company from losses to making a profit.

The people in the hotel room next to mine have been fighting and beating on the walls for the past two hours and it is almost 3 a.m. I just called security before he beats his wife.
 

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Not doubting you PC,,,

Just don't understand . How are you getting $4,200 and $ 4,400 and $ 20,000 so on out of " Free drain cleaning " ? :eek:

Fully understand getting your foot in the door / getting your name prominently in the customers minds ,,,, But I have to ask are you sales people selling customers on things they don't REALLY need ???

Also , If someone comes knocking on my door trying to sell me home improvement --- they better step back far enough from arms reach !!

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It wouldn't work around here. We have a few towns of a couple thousand each and then one larger town of 10K. I don't need a get rich quick scheme up here.
I lived and worked in Ca. for 21 years because I had a son from a previous marriage there, I wouldn't leave him, wanted to be there for him when he was growing up. I still have family and good friends in the L.A. and S.F. areas but rarely get back there anymore. Now that he's grown up I'm living in God's Country and wouldn't have it any other way. There is more to life than seeing how much you can squeeze a person for.
I make a good living up here. Bought a house in town on a double lot with a shop and a cabin with some land outside of town for deer hunting etc., all with cash when I moved back home thanks to the inflated Ca. home prices earlier (got out just in time). I don't worry about working every day, there are more important things to do such as spending time with family, fishing, hunting, hiking, wheeling, etc.
So you see pcplumber it might be good for you where you're at but it's not good for everyone else. I wouldn't trade places with you in a zillion years! I do like the idea of the desert home though, spent some time out in 29 palms, different place for sure.
 

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A population of 11,000,000 people :eek:
I only have maybe 10,000 in my town total service area maybe 30,000
most diy or elderly, Can't afford to give out free services here.
If I only had a higher population I know I can make more $$$$$.
Miss servicing the Boston area but not working for someone else did all the grunt work made peanuts. Que the dream sound as I imagine working in an area well populated and working for myself this time.
 

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Do people need what we sell?

Not doubting you PC,,,

Just don't understand . How are you getting $4,200 and $ 4,400 and $ 20,000 so on out of " Free drain cleaning " ? :eek:

Fully understand getting your foot in the door / getting your name prominently in the customers minds ,,,, But I have to ask are you sales people selling customers on things they don't REALLY need ???

Also , If someone comes knocking on my door trying to sell me home improvement --- they better step back far enough from arms reach !!

my .02

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A long time ago, in the Ridgid Forum, I had a thread where I posted all my BBB complaints. Every complaint was from a person we never did a job for and every complaint was regarding our refusing to do work for customers. I never had a complaint regarding a sale nor an attempted sale.

When someone asks if the customers need what we sell I ask them to analyze their question because the question implies that most, or all customers are ignorant,n and can't make intelligent decisions. In short, it would seem impossible to sell $4.2 million annually for services that are not necessary and not have complaints.

Check out the reviews about my company on the internet. Every review (complaint) states we did not show up for a service call and every complaint states we were rude when the customer called. If we were rude and told the customer to fly a kite then when you read between the lines you will see that we are very busy, we choose not to work for rude customers, and not one customer complained about a sale.

I don't know how this laptop works and can't paste a link, but go to contractormarketingideas.com and you will find several articles about my company. The owner of this magazine , Mark Bucholson, visited my office a few weeks ago and interrogated me for about two hours. Mark came to Los Angeles from Canada and he is a brilliant businessman.

When people ask me questions I guestimate what the answer is. Sometimes, I am a little to low or too high, but when Mark asks a question he is much faster at the math than myself and he knows the answers. I think many people think everyone on the internet write just for enjoyment and we are rambling, but people like Mark from Contractor Marketing Ideas are very serious about business and sincere about helping people. I recommend that people change gears and rather than assuming things won't do what contractors say, they could try to figure out out they can apply this information.

I spent several months putting the manual together that tells how we sell up to $30,000 to many customers just from a service call. Recently, we had a few jobs over $40,000. Find the manual in the links if you haen't seen it.

I lived on Mountain Home Air Force Base in Mountain Home Idaho Idaho when I was in the Air Force from 1968 to 1972. The population in the city was only 10,000 at the time and I had 6 to 8 house painters working for me in the city at the same time I was working in the Air Force. I still have copies of the newspaper ads I ran. There were local contractors who threated me because I was taking their business and my point is; I don't believe the size of a town makes a lot of diffference. Even if I move to Sandy Valley Nevada with a population of less than 1,000 I can put several pople to work with a little good marketing. Many contractors need to see what we are talking about in action to grasp what is really possibly. You are welcome to vist any time for as long as you want to see if I am full of beans.

We're leaving to ride quads from Whiskey Petes to Sandy Valley. Check it out on Google Earth if you have time.
 

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A long time ago, in the Ridgid Forum, I had a thread where I posted all my BBB complaints. Every complaint was from a person we never did a job for and every complaint was regarding our refusing to do work for customers. I never had a complaint regarding a sale nor an attempted sale.

When someone asks if the customers need what we sell I ask them to analyze their question because the question implies that most, or all customers are ignorant,n and can't make intelligent decisions. In short, it would seem impossible to sell $4.2 million annually for services that are not necessary and not have complaints.

Check out the reviews about my company on the internet. Every review (complaint) states we did not show up for a service call and every complaint states we were rude when the customer called. If we were rude and told the customer to fly a kite then when you read between the lines you will see that we are very busy, we choose not to work for rude customers, and not one customer complained about a sale.

I don't know how this laptop works and can't paste a link, but go to contractormarketingideas.com and you will find several articles about my company. The owner of this magazine , Mark Bucholson, visited my office a few weeks ago and interrogated me for about two hours. Mark came to Los Angeles from Canada and he is a brilliant businessman.

When people ask me questions I guestimate what the answer is. Sometimes, I am a little to low or too high, but when Mark asks a question he is much faster at the math than myself and he knows the answers. I think many people think everyone on the internet write just for enjoyment and we are rambling, but people like Mark from Contractor Marketing Ideas are very serious about business and sincere about helping people. I recommend that people change gears and rather than assuming things won't do what contractors say, they could try to figure out out they can apply this information.

I spent several months putting the manual together that tells how we sell up to $30,000 to many customers just from a service call. Recently, we had a few jobs over $40,000. Find the manual in the links if you haen't seen it.

I lived on Mountain Home Air Force Base in Mountain Home Idaho Idaho when I was in the Air Force from 1968 to 1972. The population in the city was only 10,000 at the time and I had 6 to 8 house painters working for me in the city at the same time I was working in the Air Force. I still have copies of the newspaper ads I ran. There were local contractors who threated me because I was taking their business and my point is; I don't believe the size of a town makes a lot of diffference. Even if I move to Sandy Valley Nevada with a population of less than 1,000 I can put several pople to work with a little good marketing. Many contractors need to see what we are talking about in action to grasp what is really possibly. You are welcome to vist any time for as long as you want to see if I am full of beans.

We're leaving to ride quads from Whiskey Petes to Sandy Valley. Check it out on Google Earth if you have time.
JESUS man ,,, Sorry I asked
 

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The numbers that you mention PC are hard for me to wrap my mind around. I guess it's just the population difference. I don't think I could ever do any kind of door to door sales myself. It actually seems a bit unethical for what I do for a living, but that's only my opinion.
 

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Door To Door is not the way most people think.

The numbers that you mention PC are hard for me to wrap my mind around. I guess it's just the population difference. I don't think I could ever do any kind of door to door sales myself. It actually seems a bit unethical for what I do for a living, but that's only my opinion.
I thought we were going to be bothering people and they would be slamming doors on us. It has not been like that at all. We are sending brochures the previous day telling people we will be knocking, so our welcome is fairly warm. Almost every door we knock on knows about my company and a very high percent are people we already did work for in the past. Last week we knocked on a door and it was a customer we sold drains to a few years ago. The customer accepted a free sewer video inspection and we sold a 30 foot sewer that is 2 ft. to 6 ft. deep for $5500. This is a great extension that adds some gravy.

We are knocking on doors from 9:30 a.m. until 3:30 p.m. and I don't think this is a time that bothers people after a hard days work nor when they are having dinner, or resting. Every homeowner has been friendly and not one homeowner slammed their door. At least, so I was told by my door knocker.

This is the link to the stories written about my company. You will see many articles about other companies that do successful door to door canvassing. We make a lot of money without door to door, but it is always better to have one more arm reaching out to cover the slow periods. You don't have to do the actual door knocking and the ironic thing is there are many people who love door to door sales. I look at the door to door as a way to help other people make money, to help the economy, and as insurance against our economic conditions.

My door knocker loves what he does and there are many more sales people like him you can hire. Think about the people who are out of work who will knock on doors for you just for the opportunity to try to make some great money. It took me about 30 years before I started to realize the profit potential that plumbers have. When I tell professional sales people about the opportunity to knock on doors every sales person thought it was a great opportunity. I met my door knocker because he was an indepented sales person for Shubee (the company that makes the booties for plumbers). He owns his own company, made $96,000 last year, and quit his job because he sees the potential profit in door knocking for a plumbing business. Ironically, an outsider sees this potential and many plumbers don't.

http://constructionmarketingideas.blogspot.com/search?q=bestline
 

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I thought we were going to be bothering people and they would be slamming doors on us. It has not been like that at all. We are sending brochures the previous day telling people we will be knocking, so our welcome is fairly warm. Almost every door we knock on knows about my company and a very high percent are people we already did work for in the past. Last week we knocked on a door and it was a customer we sold drains to a few years ago. The customer accepted a free sewer video inspection and we sold a 30 foot sewer that is 2 ft. to 6 ft. deep for $5500. This is a great extension that adds some gravy.

We are knocking on doors from 9:30 a.m. until 3:30 p.m. and I don't think this is a time that bothers people after a hard days work nor when they are having dinner, or resting. Every homeowner has been friendly and not one homeowner slammed their door. At least, so I was told by my door knocker.

This is the link to the stories written about my company. You will see many articles about other companies that do successful door to door canvassing. We make a lot of money without door to door, but it is always better to have one more arm reaching out to cover the slow periods. You don't have to do the actual door knocking and the ironic thing is there are many people who love door to door sales. I look at the door to door as a way to help other people make money, to help the economy, and as insurance against our economic conditions.

My door knocker loves what he does and there are many more sales people like him you can hire. Think about the people who are out of work who will knock on doors for you just for the opportunity to try to make some great money. It took me about 30 years before I started to realize the profit potential that plumbers have. When I tell professional sales people about the opportunity to knock on doors every sales person thought it was a great opportunity. I met my door knocker because he was an indepented sales person for Shubee (the company that makes the booties for plumbers). He owns his own company, made $96,000 last year, and quit his job because he sees the potential profit in door knocking for a plumbing business. Ironically, an outsider sees this potential and many plumbers don't.

http://constructionmarketingideas.blogspot.com/search?q=bestline
PC, I am impressed by what you accomplish in your business, and I am not trying to insult you at all. I just disagree on using a salesperson to sell something that I feel is a service. It just does'nt feel right to me to hire a "salesman" to go in a person's home and sell them things they may or may not need.

There are alot of people out there that don't have a clue what's going on in the walls, crawlspaces, etc. of their homes. I feel like these are the people being preyed upon by this type of tactic.

I'm sure alot of the work is legit, but I'd be willing to bet that there are tons of "free" sewer inspections taking money out of peoples pockets, that really need it, especially in the shape we're in today.

I'm not in this business to get rich. I would'nt mind it, but I've always known I would'nt be. I was told once that, as long as you carry your lunch to work you'll never be wealthy. That's fine by me. I know I'll always be able to sleep at night. :thumbsup:
 

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This reminds me of the earlier days of Flat Rate, even before there was FR books. Diamond took bashing after bashing because he was FR, but he stuck it out and look at it now. Look at him now: 20 million gross.

Its harder than hell to reach customers through conventional means. YP ads are too expensive and crowded, the internet is a zoo, t.v. and radio is hit and miss, word-of-mouth went out with friendly neighbors. Yes, all these work with varying success, but the other companies are doing it, too.

Yeah, PC, I sell thousands offa simple drain cleaning or use to before the flatline. To a salesman, your methods are as tempting as a plumbers convention is to a hooker.
 

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May be in area to take welding test-San Diego area-should get planefare even if I bust. Would drive down LA to see the door to door in person if offer still open. Will know tomorrow for sure. Believe you are a pioneer and enjoyed your manual-may I share it after printing it with some Detroit people? Motown
 
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