all right i want to get all of your opinion on collars. in new and remodel applications where there is new sub and finished floor i put my collar on the finished floor and use a stainless steel ring collar. wheather its vinyl, tile, wood, etc. i hate going to replace a toilet and having to use jumbo bolts, and rings, and stacking rings. its a little more work on tile to drill 6 holes but i think its worth it. what do you guys think. i hate all plastic collars, and the blue metal rings rust out. ive had great luck w/ the stainless and the bowl is very solid.