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They make an adaptor that goes from general to ridgid cable I think the ridgid slotted end will fit a spartan? If it does you can install it and use a Ridgid Chain Knocker.
 

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I don't think a drum unit really spins fast enough to make chains viable for scale removal.

I did bolt some chains to my cable once because a line was so full of solids that I couldn't get it to mix with the water and flow.

Another time I bolted some chains to a length of 3/8" rod and ran it in my cordless drill. I had to descale this 5' length of 4" no-hub ci going through a foundation. They had put new plastic outside, and inside was all plastic. But the ci was so rough it was causing clogs. I hate no-hub crap.
 

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I don't think a drum unit really spins fast enough to make chains viable for scale removal.

I did bolt some chains to my cable once because a line was so full of solids that I couldn't get it to mix with the water and flow.

Another time I bolted some chains to a length of 3/8" rod and ran it in my cordless drill. I had to descale this 5' length of 4" no-hub ci going through a foundation. They had put new plastic outside, and inside was all plastic. But the ci was so rough it was causing clogs. I hate no-hub crap.
Not really looking to descale. Heavily scaled CI is a replacement job in my book.

Just looking for that extra kick for grease lines and roots. Roots should a full replacement too, but I'd like to be able to cut more out than I can with my C cutters and spiral saw. I know it's not ideal, but I'm not a fan of having to go back in a few days because the line is stopped up again and management is gonna fold because the customer is a Karen and complains loud enough. It would be helpful to open up the line more for the camera too.

I'm also aware that a jetter is the best option for both scenarios. My current employers have no desire to get a good enough jetter for those jobs. They're content with their modified pressure washer.
 

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Not really looking to descale. Heavily scaled CI is a replacement job in my book.

Just looking for that extra kick for grease lines and roots. Roots should a full replacement too, but I'd like to be able to cut more out than I can with my C cutters and spiral saw. I know it's not ideal, but I'm not a fan of having to go back in a few days because the line is stopped up again and management is gonna fold because the customer is a Karen and complains loud enough. It would be helpful to open up the line more for the camera too.

I'm also aware that a jetter is the best option for both scenarios. My current employers have no desire to get a good enough jetter for those jobs. They're content with their modified pressure washer.
Not sure what brand cable you run but if you have General get their 3" and 4" rotary saw blades. The trick is that the 4" set won't really fit in 4" so I will run one 3" blade with one 4" blade. I use this setup all the time and it will cut roots about as short as you can expect, leaving only about 1/4" to 3/8" sticking in the pipe.
 

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Just flare your c cutter blades out so they scrape the full circumference of the pipe. That's the best way to use a drum cable. If you want to use a chain your best bet is a drill and sectional Ridgid cable. A drum spinning a cable at 230 rpms isn't gonna do much with chains.
The C cutters General sells would crack if you tried that, they are hardened steel.
 

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Just flare your c cutter blades out so they scrape the full circumference of the pipe. That's the best way to use a drum cable. If you want to use a chain your best bet is a drill and sectional Ridgid cable. A drum spinning a cable at 230 rpms isn't gonna do much with chains.
I watched a guy break 2 Spartan cutters doing that.
 

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I watched a guy break 2 Spartan cutters doing that.
I have no experience with spartan brand blades, we used dcd blades at that company. Do y'all have the 3.5" round blades? Those flare out well. Tbh that's the only way to get roots completed cleared out of a sewer line with a drum though. If you're not scraping the tile you're not clearing it, doesn't matter how many times you hit that spot. You may look into getting a spartan to eel adapter and using expansion blades.
 

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I have no experience with spartan brand blades, we used dcd blades at that company. Do y'all have the 3.5" round blades? Those flare out well. Tbh that's the only way to get roots completed cleared out of a sewer line with a drum though. If you're not scraping the tile you're not clearing it, doesn't matter how many times you hit that spot. You may look into getting a spartan to eel adapter and using expansion blades.
I like the pear shaped from DCD. But I’ve gotten use to the Spartan style. Have you looked into the three blade cutters? They can be a pain in the… with some fittings, but with enough time and patience they can descale cast and do a good job with roots.
 

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I like the pear shaped from DCD. But I’ve gotten use to the Spartan style. Have you looked into the three blade cutters? They can be a pain in the… with some fittings, but with enough time and patience they can descale cast and do a good job with roots.
I'm all sectional right now between an r600 and the dreel. I do have the 4x6 expansion blades which is a 3 blade deal but I only stick that in the hole after a camera. For descaling I've been using the expansion cutter but I'm contemplating ordering a 3 and 4" chain knocker for Ridgid c10 cable and making a drill adapter for it.

Hey on another note what do you do insurance wise for your son when you bring him with you? Do you consider him an employee and carry workman's comp on him? Or is it all under the table?
 

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I'm all sectional right now between an r600 and the dreel. I do have the 4x6 expansion blades which is a 3 blade deal but I only stick that in the hole after a camera. For descaling I've been using the expansion cutter but I'm contemplating ordering a 3 and 4" chain knocker for Ridgid c10 cable and making a drill adapter for it.

Hey on another note what do you do insurance wise for your son when you bring him with you? Do you consider him an employee and carry workman's comp on him? Or is it all under the table?
It’s all part of his “unschooling” or life schooling, so he’s a student, not an employee. He’s fully covered medically through my wife’s work (or as best as we can in today’s current environment :rolleyes:). I don’t put him in any possible dangerous situation. It’s been about a year and a half that he’s been working for me now. He’s better at setting faucets than any 1st year apprentice that I’ve ever met! For cabling, especially mains I’m on him like a hawk on the way out. The one issue he had bringing it back when I went out to the truck he remembered what I taught him and prevented the cable from binding. I do pay him under the table, not as a wage, more like a financial lesson. 50% intro savings, 50% for spending. Quarterly he pays us 30% for tax (which ends up back in his hands eventually). Michigan is, for now, one of the best states for homeschooling. After the Covid lockdowns there’s been a huge surge in homeschooling over the government indoctrination schools, so they’re trying to change it.

The only sectional I’ve ever used is my k1500, hate it, but need it. I haven’t used the spring/expansion cutters yet, but a contractor I know found a bucket full of cutters on the side of the road and gave it to me. Mostly General stuff, but some Ridgid, including one of those expand cutters. I have a couple prevents coming up next month I want to try it out on. Just need to make sure I can convert it to .55. Probably video for N/C. Great customer.
 
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