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I have a friend who is also a competitor, and he’s talking about reducing or discontinuing toilet jobs because his back is always messed up.

It makes me think of doing away with certain services to prolong my career.

Have you ever stopped offering certain services as you age or your body just doesn’t permit it?
 

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I am mid 50s and changed careers late in life. Kindly folks would call me plump, so I came to plumbing already with aches and pains and their associated limitations. My theory going into it was that I was seeing plenty of lazy young kids getting jobs who had lifted nothing more than a joystick in their lives, so I could certainly do it, plus I brought a lot more common sense and life experience to the table. I am sure that some companies didn't hire me early on because of age, but enough saw through the drawbacks to give me my start. Maybe they were just desperate for help, but no matter. I made it a point never to expect special treatment, and although I may not have carried as much pipe at a time, I did everything any other apprentice was expected to. At the same time I wasn't shy about speaking up and asking for help when I really needed it, either from the other guys or my bosses. I was way past that age when I felt I had to be a hero and was afraid to look weak. Usually it was recognized by others before I had to say anything, either the bosses from a liability standpoint or the younger guys just out of decency, or appreciation for me looking out for them when they were making foolish youngster mistakes. Eventually I gravitated to residential service which isn't as physically taxing as other areas, and with a company that recognizes each individual's strengths and weaknesses and tries to accommodate for them. No matter your age, no one here is expected to lug a water heater up and down stairs without help, so that is probably the heaviest thing I have to deal with. Same with one piece toilets. Even when doing side jobs I tell them that they need to have an able bodied male helper to help me get those two items in and out or I don't take the job. I have been booked out 2 to 3 weeks for the past year, and I have plenty of customers ask for me by name, so I must have figured out something right.
 

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I've got plenty of issues but as of yet I am too stubborn to turn down any task, even if I know I'll regret it later. For the tough jobs that are made easier with a 2nd person I have no problem asking for help.

I find stretching beforehand helps a lot, when I remember to do it.
 

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I dont do crawl spaces much any more ....

used to do water re-pipes but its like it wears me out for
a few days after the job.... and it takes 2 guys to do hose bibs
or I will end up pulling a groin muscle... cant charge enough to
make it worthwhile....

we are getting a lot of rotting copper drain lines flooding crawl spaces
right now and I cant bring myself to wallow in that filth neither---

mystery leaks in ceilings dont thrill me much any more


but you can throw all the water heaters and softeners you want at me
I am ok with them
 

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@Master Mark We mustn't have the same hose bibs. pull ceiling tiles or cut drywall, cut pipe go outside to remove the old bib and insert a new one and go back inside to solder or pex. 1 to 1.5 hours done. I've had only every few where it was nightmare.

Mystery leaks in ceilings I get a whole lot of them. Once in a while it's a biatch, with out of reach shower drain or tub drain. Many times they installed the wrong tub without a lip. Or the dreaded broken stack in the wall. I refused one yesterday when the guy sent pictures, I didn't want to have my arms scratched up and possibly having to tell the guy the kitchen cabinets have to go to reach virgin pipe.
 

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@Master Mark We mustn't have the same hose bibs. pull ceiling tiles or cut drywall, cut pipe go outside to remove the old bib and insert a new one and go back inside to solder or pex. 1 to 1.5 hours done. I've had only every few where it was nightmare.
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I figured he meant he'd have to go in the crawlspace more than once.
 

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I figured he meant he'd have to go in the crawlspace more than once.
If I do too much crawling around in a hole it seems to pull a groin muscle and
then for the next couple of days I got to be constantly re-adjusting my nut sack cause it gets pulled all out of
alignment.. very uncomfortable

thought you would want to know 😆 😆 🤠
 

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If I do too much crawling around in a hole it seems to pull a groin muscle and
then for the next couple of days I got to be constantly re-adjusting my nut sack cause it gets pulled all out of
alignment.. very uncomfortable

thought you would want to know 😆 😆 🤠
Compression underwear works wonders at keeping the Ole twig and berries in line...
 

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Compression underwear works wonders at keeping the Ole twig and berries in line...
Tighty whiteys are good for more than just supressing your sperm count.
 

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Has anyone here NOT stopped doing certain kinds of work because of physical ailments/bodily decline/getting old AF?

Hey, I am just waiting for my next stimulus check for sitting at home....
 

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I dont do crawl spaces much any more ....

used to do water re-pipes but its like it wears me out for
a few days after the job.... and it takes 2 guys to do hose bibs
or I will end up pulling a groin muscle... cant charge enough to
make it worthwhile....

we are getting a lot of rotting copper drain lines flooding crawl spaces
right now and I cant bring myself to wallow in that filth neither---

mystery leaks in ceilings dont thrill me much any more


but you can throw all the water heaters and softeners you want at me
I am ok with them
Are we just a wee bit spoiled mark ??? Lololololo(jk)
 

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If I do too much crawling around in a hole it seems to pull a groin muscle and
then for the next couple of days I got to be constantly re-adjusting my nut sack cause it gets pulled all out of
alignment.. very uncomfortable

thought you would want to know 😆 😆 🤠
Haven't you learned yet that's what helper boys are for??? Helping you "adjust" pulled groin muscles lololololololo
 

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Are we just a wee bit spoiled mark ??? Lololololo(jk)
Noooo,.... It is just too much crawling around in tight spaces that
seems to strain the lower back muscles too much and then I will pay for the
effort for at least 3 days afterwards........
I will be .limping around like hop-along-cassidy constantly adjusting the low hanging fruit

I guess being spoiled means you have too much easy work to do yourself
and you dont want to hurt yourself doing heavy edd manual labor jobs that you know
you are gonna kill yourself over.... I am not planning on hiring help just to baby sit
them and call to wake them up every morning....nope

I think that The worst work to be doing this summer is
slab rough inns on huge apartment complexes going up in our area in 98 degree heat
Now these guys are out there trenching and putting the underground pipes in....that is rough
I used to do that back in the early 80s and dont miss that neither

I had to pass on a 75 gallon power vent heater yesterday cause
its across town and we are booked out until wednesday next week .....

me spoiled
 

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I'm mid 50s as well. Entire body is failing but especially the knees. And more especially the one I injured water skiing 25 years ago. Fortunately I have enough employees so I don't dig, crawl spaces, attics, none of that.
 

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Hey, I am just waiting for my next stimulus check for sitting at home....
It's in the mail
I'm mid 50s as well. Entire body is failing but especially the knees. And more especially the one I injured water skiing 25 years ago. Fortunately I have enough employees so I don't dig, crawl spaces, attics, none of that.
wish I could say the same but it's just me and my son and he's not to work brittle so guess who gets to do all the crap work?? Me
 
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