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How does this company make money and pay it's employees and health Insurance? If any I would run out of gas and have to close shop.

He must do a ton of calls a day big population down there. But still $49.99 for a sewer. That's a lot of dirty hard work for that cheap price. Must burn through techs like matches. I'm In no way talking bad about his company. But that seems way to cheap just seeing what my over head is for being a small company.
 

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How does this company make money and pay it's employees and health Insurance? If any I would run out of gas and have to close shop.

He must do a ton of calls a day big population down there. But still $49.99 for a sewer. That's a lot of dirty hard work for that cheap price. Must burn through techs like matches. I'm In no way talking bad about his company. But that seems way to cheap just seeing what my over head is for being a small company.
We have guys here that advertise $69.99 any drain cleaning. Its a foot in the door. They go in and pop em open and tell them they need to have the line dug up, and sell them a spot repair for say $800 bucks then after they dig that spot up they tell them it needs to be dug another 10 feet for $1800 and so on.

Most villages have a watchful eye on these guys. The BBB has a complaint list a mile long on these guys too.
 

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We have guys here that advertise $69.99 any drain cleaning. Its a foot in the door. They go in and pop em open and tell them they need to have the line dug up, and sell them a spot repair for say $800 bucks then after they dig that spot up they tell them it needs to be dug another 10 feet for $1800 and so on.

Most villages have a watchful eye on these guys. The BBB has a complaint list a mile long on these guys too.
Thanks for the info. Now I understand it's a gimick.
They make us look like rip offs when the truth is their scam artists with a smile.
 

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Thanks for the info. Now I understand it's a gimick.
They make us look like rip offs when the truth is their scam artists with a smile.
You hit the nail on the head. 99% of them are very good salesmen. I seen people that had perfect sewers get the whole thing replaced due to them hiring a salesman, to unclog an inside drain.

I had a guy that called one of these guys, and they told him they can not rod his sewer because he didn't have a proper clean out. So they gave him a price to install an outside clean out. He wanted to get a couple more bids. So I arrive at his home, and he lets me in and I started to head toward the basement steps as he headed for the stairs that lead to the second floor. He said no the problem is up here. I followed him to the master bath to find he has a whirlpool tub and a shower both backed up. I asked him how is the water closet flushing? is their anything backing up down stairs? He said water closet was fine and all the plumbing down stairs where fine. I told him his main sewer is fine, he just needed the tub & shower drain rodded. I cleared it for him, and he was very happy, but was convinced by the $69.99 any drain guys he needed an outside clean out to do this job still. I had to teach this poor fellow plumbing 101.

After a half hour of drawing up his pluming system for him he finaly seen the light.
 

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I'm just waiting for people around here to say.
I saw it online for $49.99 bla bla bla.

We can never make everyone happy. To the ho I'm a rip off to the national big company I'm a low ball hack. lol
Psssst. I cleared some that the big guy's could not guess I'm still a hack. Or more experienced than their average tech.:whistling2:

But I'm not going to nock the big guy's rates anymore they do have High over head I'm about 30% less so I make the same because I have no techs working for commission to pay.
 

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Time to stop the complaining and start doing something about it. Sounds like a service call fee to me, nothing wrong with that! Get in the home and make it happen captain. If not then get left behind.
 

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We have guys here that advertise $69.99 any drain cleaning. Its a foot in the door. They go in and pop em open and tell them they need to have the line dug up, and sell them a spot repair for say $800 bucks then after they dig that spot up they tell them it needs to be dug another 10 feet for $1800 and so on.

Most villages have a watchful eye on these guys. The BBB has a complaint list a mile long on these guys too.
You must know my old boss then. Thats what he does offers free camera calls with sewer rodding then tells them that thier only option is to line or replace sewer. Damn billy mays look alike a........... I hate pitchmen.
 

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You must know my old boss then. Thats what he does offers free camera calls with sewer rodding then tells them that thier only option is to line or replace sewer. Damn billy mays look alike a........... I hate pitchmen.
I offer to TV the line free with my main line rodding only if I had a hard time getting through a spot or I suspect the blockage is happening at the 4" CI building drain to 6" clay building sewer transition. This way I can show them the trouble spot and give them a price to repair that spot and while we are ad it install an outside clean out. Other wise I run my 4 by 6 cutter through the line and if all is uneventful I do not bother with the camera.
 

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Time to stop the complaining and start doing something about it. Sounds like a service call fee to me, nothing wrong with that! Get in the home and make it happen captain. If not then get left behind.
The reason we are complaining about it is the home owners expect us to power rod their drains for a low flat rate fee like that. Let me come to your town and advertise all over the place $49.99 to unclog any drain. Once the word is out people will tell you to take your high priced self and go where the sun does not shine. I am lucky that these guys in my area has given themselves such a bad reputation people now know better.
 

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The reason we are complaining about it is the home owners expect us to power rod their drains for a low flat rate fee like that. Let me come to your town and advertise all over the place $49.99 to unclog any drain. Once the word is out people will tell you to take your high priced self and go where the sun does not shine. I am lucky that these guys in my area has given themselves such a bad reputation people now know better.
How often do you pass them at a house in town where they are digging something up?
 

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At $50 to clear the drain, I think I would rather just call them every month to open it rather than pay to fix it.

How long would you keep a used car if every time it broke it only costs $50 to fix? I would never buy another vehicle.
 

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At $50 to clear the drain, I think I would rather just call them every month to open it rather than pay to fix it.

How long would you keep a used car if every time it broke it only costs $50 to fix? I would never buy another vehicle.
The local news had an exposie on these guys once. One of their scams is to put the rod in the line feed it in 10 feet and then have their helper put his foot against the drum to make it sound like they are on a blockage, after an hour of their little show they tell the HO they can not get the line open and it needs to be dug.
 

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Bet they burn through techs like crazy.
 

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Was thinking adding leak detection. Nope city offers for free town water only.
Not worth buying excavating equipment. Everyone has an excavator in the family. Trailor jet nope not enough commercial drains. Plumbing is mostly Hack handy man or diy. Stuck doing drains.
Have a few older plumbers around here Have a good working relationship with them. If I or they need help or a second man is only a call away.
I bet those $49.99 guys are cut throats with each other and don't work well with others.
 

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I offer to TV the line free with my main line rodding only if I had a hard time getting through a spot or I suspect the blockage is happening at the 4" CI building drain to 6" clay building sewer transition. This way I can show them the trouble spot and give them a price to repair that spot and while we are ad it install an outside clean out. Other wise I run my 4 by 6 cutter through the line and if all is uneventful I do not bother with the camera.
but do you go unstop a kitchen sink and tell the ho that the reason it is stop up is because of a broken or root infested sewer main. When you repair the bad spot do you tell the ho that the rest of the sewer is bad and needs to be replaced. This is what this guy does I was ashamed and embarassed to work for him.
 

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but do you go unstop a kitchen sink and tell the ho that the reason it is stop up is because of a broken or root infested sewer main. When you repair the bad spot do you tell the ho that the rest of the sewer is bad and needs to be replaced. This is what this guy does I was ashamed and embarassed to work for him.
Ah I understand now. Yea that is shady. I worked for this guy once,he passed some gas while standing by the kitchen sink and he then called the HO over and said " Ma-am you smell that?" Lady says " Oh god thats awful smelling." He'd reply, " Yep that their is sewer odors , every drain in this house needs to be rodded." I walked out the door and walked home. I couldn't work for a guy like that.
 

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Ah I understand now. Yea that is shady. I worked for this guy once,he passed some gas while standing by the kitchen sink and he then called the HO over and said " Ma-am you smell that?" Lady says " Oh god thats awful smelling." He'd reply, " Yep that their is sewer odors , every drain in this house needs to be rodded." I walked out the door and walked home. I couldn't work for a guy like that.
I worked for this guy for 5 yrs but it took its toll on my health. It really bothered me to watch him lie to these people. I shouldn't have continued working for him but jobs around here are not easy to get. But you live and learn and I swear I will never do it again. I will live under an overpass and eat dog food if I have too.
 
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