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Old 12-28-2019, 04:53 PM   #21
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It is great for cleaning metal. I use it for cleaning old faucets I save and wish to reuse.



A couple months ago I emptied out all my shelf worn 1/2" and 3/4" brass from the parts drawers in my van. They had gotten real dirty from the rust in the bottom of the drawers and moisture. I put them in a bucket with like 8oz of HCl and some water and let them sit for a couple hours on the back porch, agitating it when I walked by. Rinsed well with water and they looked brand new and ready to sell again.










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Old 12-29-2019, 07:17 PM   #22
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Ive been listening to both sides ..1 for working with acid in drains and 1 that wont for safety reasons...I didnt look or google yet for any specific product made for this..... but do they make a product that will neutralize the acid and make it safe to work with when drain cleaning?????
I use muriatic acid for cleaning metal and concrete and when done you can neutralize it with a baking soda solution.....has anyone tried this down a sink or drain line???



Dissolve 4 to 5 cups of baking soda in a 5-gallon bucket filled with approximately 1/4 water. Pour the acid slowly into the bucket until the fizzing stops, and dispose the solution. For spills, neutralize the acid by pouring raw baking soda or lime over the spills until the fizzing stops.
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I tried on 2 occasions to try and neutralize the acid by putting baking soda in the sink, it foams up, bubbles and sizzles. After 20 minutes of it still boiling I tested it with a test strip and still too acid. I put more and eventually after like 40 minutes it was supposed to be okay, however the line is still full of acid hell and since it doesn't mix up to 10-20-30-40 feet while the sink is somewhat neutralized. Those test strips go bad real quick and I stopped buying them and stopped that chemical nonsense altogether. I do draino lines though.

You can't neutralize the line in my opinion and the danger is you have to put your head under the sink to cut the pipe out for cabling. That's when your arms get drops and starts to burn. Worse if you get some on your face or eyes. When you do a first pass and have to try again with the cable spraying, a few times drops burnt my pants and ruined them. I had posted pictures some time back. Wiping the cable isn't enough there's a always some on it.
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I tried on 2 occasions to try and neutralize the acid by putting baking soda in the sink, it foams up, bubbles and sizzles. After 20 minutes of it still boiling I tested it with a test strip and still too acid. I put more and eventually after like 40 minutes it was supposed to be okay, however the line is still full of acid hell and since it doesn't mix up to 10-20-30-40 feet while the sink is somewhat neutralized. Those test strips go bad real quick and I stopped buying them and stopped that chemical nonsense altogether. I do draino lines though.

You can't neutralize the line in my opinion and the danger is you have to put your head under the sink to cut the pipe out for cabling. That's when your arms get drops and starts to burn. Worse if you get some on your face or eyes. When you do a first pass and have to try again with the cable spraying, a few times drops burnt my pants and ruined them. I had posted pictures some time back. Wiping the cable isn't enough there's a always some on it.



I vac out the bulk first. When you go to disconnect the hose put that end in the bucket and lift the other end out of the sink and coil it in the bucket. Carry the shop vac carefully to the bathroom. Take the top off and place it in the tub. Carefully pour the bulk into the toilet and flush. Then you can rinse the vac parts in the tub.


A lot of times this also partially unclogs the line, especially if it's not vented. Then you can run a bit of water to clear out the remaining stuff and if you want toss in some neutralizer.


For cutting the pipe nicely and not spraying crap everywhere with the shop vac I suggest the wheeler rex 4992.






















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Here's what I don't get. If you as the drain cleaning professional aren't willing to deal with drain cleaning chemicals in a kitchen sink line than who do you expect to do it? Should they call the fire department and ask for the hazmat team?



Stuff like that is just part of the job. Darn near everyone is trying chemicals at 10$/bottle before they call a plumber at 95$+/hr.















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We all have things that we won't deal with. Some guys won't touch schitt, others dogs, etc. Jobs with those issues can just be done by the next guy, who can look like the hero if he wants, until the job that has HIS pet issue. Mine is driving in snow. It's one thing to fight my way in during a storm, but then spend the whole day driving around in it in a rear wheel drive van with little weight in the back, with the way the other idiots drive today when they feel they're invincible becuase their SUVs have 4WD? No thanks. I'm off today because of it, and they're saying that it might go right through tomorrow. With New Years it's going to be a short check this week.

When I was younger I was the guy who got my a$$ into work no matter what, sometime leaving hours early, only to find most of the others who lived even closer didn't bother. And for what, little or no recognition, getting to return home to still have to clear my driveway that night, now with compacted tracks in and out that made it much harder.

I'm not crazy about chemicals either. Usually I ask if they've used them, but of course the one time I forget is when they definately have. No matter, I usually just assume that they've used them anytime I've got a blocked drain, and take appropriate precautions, so no big deal. I have had them lie to me too, which just amazes me. What actually do they think I'm going to do? Yell at them or something? Then you get those customers who freak out at you for all sorts of irrational and false reasons. Those are the ones that I'd like to have a little more fear of me.
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Got another call today, a woman asks for a jetter because the plumber couldn't get it open with a 25' snake. She went on the pipe was 30 feet and longer. Seriously I've heard that tune a half dozen times last year. All I can say the guy isn't a real plumber or is an idiot with 25'. Then he suggested to use another plumber with a jetter. She tells me she put sulfuric acid and the plumber was about to do the same thing.

I told her to call someone else who wanted to risk going to the hospital. She didn't comprehend one second how strong that stuff is.
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