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Old 12-27-2019, 09:10 PM   #11
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I must admit that this topic seems to have been a pretty good choice made by the site owner. As much as I despise them I will admit when they hit the nail on the head.


But I will point out that is, again, a european picture.










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Old 12-27-2019, 10:10 PM   #12
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The problem is that they sell the strong stuff at big box stores and people are clueless about them and don't think it's bad real bad. The clerks a re also ignorant and just hand them out. Today the sink turned black and permanently stained because of the substance.

Some of the customers went to read my drain cleaning page and decide to call me and didn't put anything in there. Those are good customers.

A month or 2 ago the clerks at the supply house is all happy to present me their new product line of ultra tough drain openers, some of them were already leaking brand new from the box and he had no idea the burns it would do. For him it was like mr. clean to wipe away stains.
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The problem is that they sell the strong stuff at big box stores and people are clueless about them and don't think it's bad real bad............





What do you consider the "strong stuff"?








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I saw frozen burgers yesterday and I was thinking how you, do you think they'll taste the same?

they dont....there ok but the best is fresh off the steam table....
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What do you consider the "strong stuff"?








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Without checking too much it's supposed to be 93% sulfuric acid

https://www.rona.ca/en/super-drain-l...SABEgKGAPD_BwE


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they dont....there ok but the best is fresh off the steam table....
I doubt there's any franchise in Canada
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Without checking too much it's supposed to be 93% sulfuric acid





I checked and it is 93% H2SO4. Seems like a bit much but on further searching I found that "clobber" by oatey is also 93% H2SO4. Mule Kick by Sexauer is also 93% sulfuric acid. I have dealt with Clobber in a line before so I guess it's not that bad. They used two quarts. Really the only "drain cleaning chemicals" I am worried of encountering are high cocentrate HCl or KOH.




On a side note did you guys know there was a court case about mule kick drain cleaner? A plumber sued Sexauer because it sprayed and got in his eyes. In this case he had used the flakes form of mule kick which is NaOH, not an acid. The container specifically said it wouldn't cause pressure when used as a drain cleaner. It came out of a hole rusted through a galv drain pipe over head when he was checking it out in the basement. He had just put it down the drain. He lost his case. Basically they said he was a licensed plumber and should have known better.


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Ive been listening to both sides ..1 for working with acid in drains and 1 that wont for safety reasons...I didnt look or google yet for any specific product made for this..... but do they make a product that will neutralize the acid and make it safe to work with when drain cleaning?????
I use muriatic acid for cleaning metal and concrete and when done you can neutralize it with a baking soda solution.....has anyone tried this down a sink or drain line???



Dissolve 4 to 5 cups of baking soda in a 5-gallon bucket filled with approximately 1/4 water. Pour the acid slowly into the bucket until the fizzing stops, and dispose the solution. For spills, neutralize the acid by pouring raw baking soda or lime over the spills until the fizzing stops.
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another reason to move south of the border...
or at least visit for a taste....
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I use muriatic acid for cleaning metal and concrete and when done you can neutralize it with a baking soda solution.....has anyone tried this down a sink or drain line???





Muriatic acid is HCl. It's one of the two drain cleaning chemicals I keep on the truck. Sold as Hercules/Oatey brand "Sizzle", it's a 35% solution. I use it for polishing the inside of old galvanized lines.



It is extremely strong. It will strip the oxides off most metals very quickly. I have had it liberate zinc and then deposit it on chrome. This will make the chrome very dark like it has been damaged. Use a bit more HCl and it will strip this back off.


It is great for cleaning metal. I use it for cleaning old faucets I save and wish to reuse.









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