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Old 05-04-2016, 10:34 AM   #21
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Not yet but I hear it's in the works. And I support it.
that's what I heard also.
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Old 05-29-2016, 07:58 PM   #22
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I agree with the comments about DIY TV and UTube "How to fix it" videos. Had a woman call the office the other day. Call got transferred to me and I was informed right away that she had watched all the UTube videos on how to fix her problem and she knew all about it. I asked her why she didn't just do it then to which she responded she didn't have the tools. She only wanted a price quote from us. I explained our $75.00 diagnostic charge and that we would give her an exact quote before we did the repair. No, no, no I don't want that because I already know how to fix it, I just want the quote without you coming out. Even if we did give phone quotes, which we don't, for someone who knew everything she couldn't even explain it to me where I could understand whether she had a drain, water or gas line problem.

So, this got me thinking. The Internet is here to stay and so are the DIY shows and nuts giving bad advice at the big box stores. How can we work around them and use them for our benefit?

I've got some ideas but I'd like to hear from some of the rest of y'all.
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I agree with the comments about DIY TV and UTube "How to fix it" videos. Had a woman call the office the other day. Call got transferred to me and I was informed right away that she had watched all the UTube videos on how to fix her problem and she knew all about it. I asked her why she didn't just do it then to which she responded she didn't have the tools. She only wanted a price quote from us. I explained our $75.00 diagnostic charge and that we would give her an exact quote before we did the repair. No, no, no I don't want that because I already know how to fix it, I just want the quote without you coming out. Even if we did give phone quotes, which we don't, for someone who knew everything she couldn't even explain it to me where I could understand whether she had a drain, water or gas line problem.

So, this got me thinking. The Internet is here to stay and so are the DIY shows and nuts giving bad advice at the big box stores. How can we work around them and use them for our benefit?

I've got some ideas but I'd like to hear from some of the rest of y'all.
It's tough for me to talk bad about someone trying to fix their own plumbing since I DIY everything. Van or personal vehicles break down I check you tube and the manual and fix it myself but I'm not a licensed mechanic. My oven broke, with my Hvac skills I was able to diagnose and fix it but I'm not an oven repairman. When my wash machine broke I checked you tube and learned to take the whole thing apart and change the motor but I'm not an appliance repairman. Just a few examples but I'll give anything a shot before I call someone to repair something at my house.
I do think it will all change soon due to schools removing all shop classes and society raising a bunch of wusses that want to play video games all day, not follow Dad around and learn how to turn a tool, and be a desk jockey/ computer nerd w/ no physical work ethic.
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I agree with this ^^^..
All of my friends, and most of the kids even younger, couldn't plunge a toilet , let alone real plumbing. And most don't want to even try. This may change as they get into their 40s and want to save some money. But, most won't have enough skill to accomplish the job. The next couple of generations should bring back the trades. The problem I see, is lack of younger people getting into the trades. This could be a positive and a negative for us .
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My oldest is almost 12, I am working on large job that will last for six months, going to get him on job this summer, weekends only for I will be the only one there. Going to start out with small tasks, self nailer FHA's, learning fittings, maybe drill some holes not sure exactly, always something to do. Smart kid but he needs to get out there. Not trying to make a plumber out of him but hoping to instill some work habits.
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I agree with this ^^^..
All of my friends, and most of the kids even younger, couldn't plunge a toilet , let alone real plumbing. And most don't want to even try. This may change as they get into their 40s and want to save some money. But, most won't have enough skill to accomplish the job. The next couple of generations should bring back the trades. The problem I see, is lack of younger people getting into the trades. This could be a positive and a negative for us .
I read in one of the plumbing magazines that over the next several years 40% of the plumbing force will retire. I don't see many kids wanting to become plumbers either. I think it's a positive for me or anyone in plumbing because we will all be more valuable. With everyone from teachers to the president telling kids the only way to be successful is with a college education I think our trade will be secure for years to come.
I see college educated people working as checkers at Walmart or fast food all the time, making $20,000-30,000 a year with huge student loans. I'm not against higher education but it's not for everybody. I really wish they would have trade school options for high school kids, half a day school & half day trade school.
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I do think all trades will be more valuable as the baby boomers retire... Most of the foreman at my shop are in their early 30's. The older guys retired.. My biggest fear is states taking away licensure away . I know some southern states don't have this, or a real apprenticeship program. My hope is government doesn't take this away from the states that have it, and force the other states to adopt statewide apprenticeships, and licensure.
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Finding good help. Number one.

I agree with a previous poster. The majoroty of the younger generation does not want to work hard. They want to make a million off of Instagram or Facebook or some weird gluten free food. Which by all means go do that and be successful but there is no one filling the shoes of the retiring baby boomers and alike.

I have had some younger apprentices but from some reason they can work hard but can't grasp the math or technique. Then there are those who are smart but can't show up for work. I don't know what it is but it just means OUR wages will continue to rise but we lack the appropriate personnel to ever get anything of substance completed in a professional timely manner.

The DIYers don't scare me neither do the unlicensed guys. Eventually everybody gets tired of messing their house up. Just walk away from k ow it all and focus on the right kind of clientele because it's there if you're good enough
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