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Old 04-25-2016, 07:03 AM   #1
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What do you feel are the biggest challenges facing the trade, both now and in the future. What solutions are there for overcoming these challenges?

What challenges are YOU dealing with now?
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DIY forums, how to YouTube videos, and even the forums for "professionals" only are providing homeowners with information that used to take years of apprenticeship to learn.

There isn't a solution to this problem but we as plumbers can be conscious of the information we share. Understanding that PZ can and will be searched by homeowners looking for free information.

We are losing markup potential for products like Water Heaters. When a half decent company like Rheem sells to the public, plumbers are left with the tab. DIY installs will always have more product returns, customer service time, and online complaints. Even professional brands are usually available online, sometimes for less than at the local supply house. As plumbing contractors we have the choice to buy from manufactures that still have respect for what we do. Refuse to install a tank that was purchased online. I also refuse to service a Whirlpool or Rheem. Hell the box store installers won't even service them.

Home Advisor is another threat to the plumbing industry, especially for shops that focus on residential service. Amazon, Angies List, and dozens of other platforms are trying to make plumbing a commodity. Home Advisor might bring your business short term success but you are feeding a beast that you may not be able to compete with years down the road. I will never be a customer to any of these pimps.



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This is the kind of **** that happens when anybody is allowed to purchase a water heater.


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DIY forums, how to YouTube videos, and even the forums for "professionals" only are providing homeowners with information that used to take years of apprenticeship to learn.

There isn't a solution to this problem but we as plumbers can be conscious of the information we share. Understanding that PZ can and will be searched by homeowners looking for free information.

We are losing markup potential for products like Water Heaters. When a half decent company like Rheem sells to the public, plumbers are left with the tab. DIY installs will always have more product returns, customer service time, and online complaints. Even professional brands are usually available online, sometimes for less than at the local supply house. As plumbing contractors we have the choice to buy from manufactures that still have respect for what we do. Refuse to install a tank that was purchased online. I also refuse to service a Whirlpool or Rheem. Hell the box store installers won't even service them.

Home Advisor is another threat to the plumbing industry, especially for shops that focus on residential service. Amazon, Angies List, and dozens of other platforms are trying to make plumbing a commodity. Home Advisor might bring your business short term success but you are feeding a beast that you may not be able to compete with years down the road. I will never be a customer to any of these pimps.



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What do you feel are the biggest challenges facing the trade, both now and in the future. What solutions are there for overcoming these challenges?

What challenges are YOU dealing with now?
Wages, benefits, work conditions.

Seattle, NY, and California are heading toward $15.00 minimum wage. Pretty soon the rest of the nation will follow. The average pay for a plumber is $20.00 with little or no benefits, so in a few years, plumbers will be making a bit over minimum wage.

I'm in favor of doing away with ticket and commission workers in the trades. Have everyone use a time clock to get paid from check in to check out. Have benefit packages just like normal businesses.

Getting apprentices for this trade was never easy. I live in a state where working for a pot grow or McDonald's pays better with easier work and a better future. All of us are running ads for helpers. My last one was offering $15.00 and I got no interest.
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Lack of business education. Not college courses necessarily (not that they are bad), but the economics of business in the real world. This applies as much to employees as to business operators.
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Lack of business education. Not college courses necessarily (not that they are bad), but the economics of business in the real world. This applies as much to employees as to business operators.
business education is very important. Looking at the business from the employe side looks simple but when you see it from the other side it is a little different and a lot more involved than you could imagine.
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business education is very important. Looking at the business from the employe side looks simple but when you see it from the other side it is a little different and a lot more involved than you could imagine.

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The internet. Plain and simple.
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Challenges I face? Constant layoffs, ****ty attitudes, nepotism, unable to gain experience/ training in different areas of the trade, work conditions, Mr. DIY, plumbing licensing and its enforcement....
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