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I'm struggling with the layout. Handicap stall, valve and diverter between 38" and 48". Shower head centered in stall and 79" to center. I couldn't find any info on the adjustable head or where to put the drop eared ell for that matter.
I'm looking for some ideas on this layout. Wondering if you could help ?
It's a Bradley 1C valve with a Delta diverter.
 
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He said he has a diverter so it sounds to me like he has a fixed shower head AND an adjustable showerhead/sprayer wand.






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#3 ·
Really depends on what the HO wants and how the rest of the shower is going to be. Is there a bench? Does the HO want to be able to grab the handheld while sitting on the bench? Same wall as the valve and diverter or different wall? Are there built in bottle niches? Decorative tile border at a certain height that you need to keep the supply el and handheld away from? Is the handheld going to be on an adjustable bar, a holder somewhere near the supply el, or is it a supply el that is also the holder? Will there be grab bars installed in the shower since it is handicap?
 
#4 ·
Seriously? Sounds like your only issue is where to place the holder for the handheld sprayer, I would say 6" to the side of the shower valve would be good, maybe a little more if the piping in the wall is cramped. I would put the diverter below the shower valve.








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Seriously? Sounds like your only issue is where to place the holder for the handheld sprayer, I would say 6" to the side of the shower valve would be good, maybe a little more if the piping in the wall is cramped. I would put the diverter below the shower valve.



6 over would work for the bar , just puts the drop eared ell over the valve. Hose over the valve seems like a nuisance to me .
Looking at Plumbus's picture it seems that's acceptable.
 
#6 ·
I would do this except diverter between bar and valve, and obviously you won't have the tap off the shower head.






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I would put showered at what ever normal height you are comfortable with. In the pic that Plumbus posted I see the drop ell for the handheld is pictured right above the valve and diverted which would mean that the hose would hit the handle all the time, I would never put it like that. Either put the drop ell on one side of the valve and the slidebar on the other side so the hose goes down under the valve and loops back up to the sprayer or put the drop ell a little to the side of the valve and further over the slidebar so the drop ell is between the valve and slidebar. Or valve-bar-ell

These pictures of a shower I did for my mother in law would be my recommendation on layout.


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I would put showered at what ever nirmal height you are comfortable with. In the pic OP posted i see the drop ell for the handheld is pictured right above the valve and diverted which would mean that the hose would hit the handle all the time, I would never put it like that. Either put the drop ell on one side of the valve and the slidebar on the other side so the hose goes down under the valve and loops back up to the sprayer or put the drop ell a little to the side of the valve and further over the slidebar so the drop ell is between the valve and slidebar. Or valve-bar-ell

These pictures of a shower I did for my mother in law would be my recommendation on layout.


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I like it.
 
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I just looked at my ada book file on my phone and I do think my setup in my picture would work good if it was rearranged a little bit. Same setup as in my picture but closest to backwall would be the drop ell and then centered with the shower head and drain would be the slidebar and then the valve would be closest to the front so its easier to reach from a wheelchair. At least that is how it looks to me in the ada code if it is to be ada aproved.

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I may see if I can put the slide bar drop eared ell a little higher than the diverter on the other side of the fixed head centerline, slide bar on the other side of the fixed head centerline. So long as the hose does not touch on the floor. That would allow no intrusion into the valve or diverter and full range of the slide bar. Or drop eared ell at centerline of fixed head.
 
#26 ·
When i rough in bathrooms in people home i plan by.

1.) Ask the g.c what they want maby its just a model home.
2.) Ask the HO. Some of them have wild ideas....
3.) If nobody tells me sh!t an its up to me i put my valve 40" off the floor center of the shower. If theres a slide bar drop 90 goes 6" off center an 6" below valve..

Anything institutional and ADA i request shop drawings and stamped an approved BP
 
#28 ·
Well, it's a done deal and I lost out. I went over the issues with the boss and he agreed with me on the hose but wanted the drop eared ell high. Oh well.
Slide bar will go center. Which it should. Ended up with 5" centers. Shower head, drop eared ell although 2.5" lower than center, valve.
 

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#32 ·
well if you consider this an intro....


hello, I'm licensed. UPC. Familiar with IPC. Located in western Wyo. Been piping since 82.


but it seems back then they let short intros get a pass.....??????
but he has a decent post count and was active back in the day...I took a short sabbatical myself, so life does get in the way sometimes...:smile:
 
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