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Old 09-01-2015, 11:41 PM   #11
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You have to have two different certs, or your mechanics do. ASME IX Brazer and ASSE 6010 Installer. One entitles you to braze medical gas piping. The other entitles you to fit or pimp medical gas piping. These certifications cover the hands in the field. I don't know but wonder if the piping contractor has to also carry some credentials? I would think at least I would talk to my insurance man. But I'm not a contractor. In my neck of the woods this project would be heavily engineered and permitted. To the point where I would trust no internet information. Medical gas is %1000 more critical than common plumbing. If you don't have your sh!T together someone may die. If I caught wind of a potentially unsafe med gas install in my area I would notify state, local, national authorities immediately.
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:40 AM   #12
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You have to have two different certs, or your mechanics do. ASME IX Brazer and ASSE 6010 Installer. One entitles you to braze medical gas piping. The other entitles you to fit or pimp medical gas piping. These certifications cover the hands in the field. I don't know but wonder if the piping contractor has to also carry some credentials? I would think at least I would talk to my insurance man. But I'm not a contractor. In my neck of the woods this project would be heavily engineered and permitted. To the point where I would trust no internet information. Medical gas is %1000 more critical than common plumbing. If you don't have your sh!T together someone may die. If I caught wind of a potentially unsafe med gas install in my area I would notify state, local, national authorities immediately.
Yes it is a two part certification one is hardly any good without the other. If you don't have the certifications you can't touch it. The certifications only cover the installer and brazer. You are correct that you need to have it together but do remember there are many checks and verifications before a final test process by a third party verifier. The liability is hi but if you follow all the steps and don't change the protocol for any reason you will be fine.
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As I stated in my original post, I have been doing the rough plumbing. I am very curious by nature, so was wondering what the process is. That said, the gas lines are done, not touched by me, so I'll see what happens on inspection. Thanks to all who offered insight! :-)
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And a very "special" thank you to Plumberkc for being consistent!!!!
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As I stated in my original post, I have been doing the rough plumbing. I am very curious by nature, so was wondering what the process is. That said, the gas lines are done, not touched by me, so I'll see what happens on inspection. Thanks to all who offered insight! :-)
If you didn't touch the gas lines, why did you ask this:

"Can I run my trunks in 1/2 I/d & reduce at each end of the run? Secondly, is there a specific name brand for brazing rod which I can use?"

If there's a guy onsite that is med gas certified, why not ask him while he is running the lines?
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If you didn't touch the gas lines, why did you ask this:

"Can I run my trunks in 1/2 I/d & reduce at each end of the run? Secondly, is there a specific name brand for brazing rod which I can use?"

If there's a guy onsite that is med gas certified, why not ask him while he is running the lines?
Firstly let me thank you for the genuine input you gave to my question. Since we are all grammar scholars on the site, I do apologize for asking the question in the first person. My question was one of curiosity. I had NO intention of exposing myself by working on something I'm uncertain of. As I also stated, I tend to operate very conservatively, asking the "what if" as well as other questions. Hey, you could have always PM'd me, like I asked, if ya had any real input! I was trying to avoid the haranguing by guys with hard-ons for those of us not to their level of expertise. Long story short, I was trying to learn something. Thanks for your help.......?!!!!!
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And since YOU are so literal BDS, I never stated the certified was on site! Again, thanks for your special input.
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As I stated in my original post, I have been doing the rough plumbing. I am very curious by nature, so was wondering what the process is. That said, the gas lines are done, not touched by me, so I'll see what happens on inspection. Thanks to all who offered insight! :-)
Nothing wrong with learning or bring curious. I ran lots of med gas, mostly hospitals, years ago but that was before the certificates were required. No longer in my area of plumbing so have never bothered with getting certified.
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Once I was running med gas at an old folks home renovation and kept losing pipe. Lots of it. I busted the day laborers cutting up our expensive copper but the gc wouldn't fire them because of fear of a racial discrimination lawsuit. Since they continued to be around us without fear of losing their job i was forced to get my revenge by insulting them constantly.

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It is very specialized and nobody can tell you what to do or not as long as you are following the codes. On one hospital add I had a engineer tell me I had to put drainage fittings in on it
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