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Old 09-30-2019, 10:15 PM   #21
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How does that built in drain work or what does it look like? I'm having the city shut the curb when I'm there.

I vacuumed mains when I'm swapping a main valve but it only sucks out a couple of inches with the vac directly on the pipe.

Good Idea, I'll have her sign I can't really do anything from the house to the curb.



There is a hole in the side of the ball valve body and a hole in the ball. The hole in the ball is covered by the teflon seal when it's open and of course the hole in the body is only open to the solid sides of the ball with a seal on either end when the valve is open. When the valve is closed the side of the ball with the hole is towards the house and the hole in the valve body is now open to the cross drilled portion of the ball.


It's a little hard to describe but I tried.




It's different than a standard stop and waste valve. A stop and waste valve has no extra hole in the ball.











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I did the job this morning and what a $hit show, well it wasn't so bad. It turned out last winter the neighbor heated the house with little electric heaters because the oil furnace wasn't working. The old woman owed 1500$ to the oil/tech company so they didn't fix it. The neighbor did say she had the money but everything was locked in the bank and he had to buy her bags of chips with his own money when he visits because the money was locked. Strange!

I was about to start the process and realized the electricity to the house was also disconnected, I guess she hadn't paid that bill either. She'd been caught by the police driving without supervision.

I had to go rent a generator to do the job, the place was in shambles. The curator told me horror stories, where in other houses that were abandoned, rotting food in the fridge, it literally blew up. In other houses garbage bags left piled for years, cockroaches, bed bugs. In some of them they had to decontaminate the house first before a plumber would set their foot in.

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I won't be on a preferred list either, she said she chose the first plumber that showed up online, good or bad company she didn't check. They have too much work so they don't shop around. Also they have to rotate so only one plumbing company a year.

3/4 of the way in the job she was hoping I could hurry up because she had to go pee, she even unplugged the air hose out side so I could pack up quickly.
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I won't be on a preferred list either, she said she chose the first plumber that showed up online, good or bad company she didn't check. They have too much work so they don't shop around. Also they have to rotate so only one plumbing company a year.

3/4 of the way in the job she was hoping I could hurry up because she had to go pee, she even unplugged the air hose out side so I could pack up quickly.

you should have offered your bucket to her and the back of your truck...
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you should have offered your bucket to her and the back of your truck...
I knew you'd come with something when I was typing that!

She was also very pleasing to the eyes....
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I knew you'd come with something when I was typing that!

She was also very pleasing to the eyes....

any pictures of her? you got the other plumbing pics...
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any pictures of her? you got the other plumbing pics...
Nope it's burned into my memory. It's the only place where it's safe....
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I do about 200 houses a year. Most have been designed to drain when build with copper water lines pitched to drains. We do have some that are newer built with pex tubing that were never meant to be winterized. In those cases we hook a hose Y to the washing machine valve and pump food grade antifreeze to every fixture. Most of our work is with Wells and to the well lines have unions and drains in the basement. Also the water heaters have two ball valves to isolate during the pumping. After the pumping we open everything up. In the spring we flush the antifreeze out and once it's clear we offer a chlorine flush and a bacteria water sample about a week after startup.

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dont put anything in the potable water system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! even if its non toxic, you may never get the taste of it out of the pipes and then your up $hits creek without a paddle....
You will get the taste out no problem,it is the only sure way to truly winterize a house or blding
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Odds are the electricity goes out and it freezes faucets that are already empty is very slim.

Yeah I was looking for compressor on sale this morning. I'll have to check my garage to see if I still have my small one.

Good point on the water heater, I can fill it up with air.
If you use the water heater as a air tank(and it works) you will ruin your air compressor if it's a small one,it takes a lot of air to blow out waterlines,your little air compressor will burn up if you let it keep running and running and it will,I use a 25 gallon air tank along with the water heater and it still takes awhile
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