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Old 10-11-2018, 04:05 PM   #741
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I'd try the high lift jack if not tell them to start digging by hand just like in the old days!

It also surprises me you can rent a mini backhoe over here!
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:27 PM   #742
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I'd try the high lift jack if not tell them to start digging by hand just like in the old days!

It also surprises me you can rent a mini backhoe over here!
I did tell them to hand dig if they want to save money. Line is only 4í down. And my guess is there are just two cast to clay ferncos. I just donít know how far out he got that POS.

You can rent an excavator all day long here too. Just donít get caught using it for something youíre not legally allowed to do. Underground is a whole different license out here and the liability insurance is insane! My Master did that work once. Unless youíre digging every day you end up loosing your azz.
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I did tell them to hand dig if they want to save money. Line is only 4í down. And my guess is there are just two cast to clay ferncos. I just donít know how far out he got that POS.

You can rent an excavator all day long here too. Just donít get caught using it for something youíre not legally allowed to do. Underground is a whole different license out here and the liability insurance is insane! My Master did that work once. Unless youíre digging every day you end up loosing your azz.
4 feet is easy if it's not sticky clay. It amazes me some people buy a house but they are house poor. They don't plan on anything and don't think it costs a lot of money for maintenance.
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:59 PM   #744
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Around here it’s a craps shoot! Rock hard clay, sticky clay, undermining sand and nice digging dirt. Literally can be one way for a house and a different type right next door. I blame the stupid glaciers! I’m doing my part to get rid of them forever! Who knows when the next glacier attack will be!
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Show room fail?
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A co-worker is trying to buy his first house and asked me if I would take a look at it with him. I could not believe my eyes when I saw this mess. Beautiful house up top, but under the house,,, not so much. Apparently some one had nothing better to do the last 20 years so they hand dug the entire crawl space. Poured a slab, and built some kind of retaining walls. You can see in the pics how the original elevation was only about 12 to 16 inches. He got an estimate of about $60,000 to fix everything.
This was not that uncommon back in the 50's & 60's. House set on a frost wall, dig it out, can't get to close to the original frost wall. Set block, pour a floor and if you get fancy put a concrete cap back to the original frost wall to help keep dampness out. My Dad & Uncle did this to a place we lived at, hand dug with a home mad conveyor to get the dirt out an old crawl space vent.
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Yesterday I went and looked at a remodel for a guy who had a plumber that won't return his call.

Apparently said plumber is a guy who used to have a plumbing business in town, wasn't doing too well at it and went to work for one of the local water departments. This remodel occurred during the time that he no longer had a business license. The owner informed me that the inspectors even saw him there doing work and made comments in regard to how he shouldn't be doing what he's doing, yet nothing happened to the dude. Now apparently he's got a job as a correctional officer and won't return calls to finish this job.

Long story short and i'm under looking at this shower drain that I need to hook a trap up to and I see a tub drain not too far off with another one of these damn flat vents. The vent fitting and the 90 are even hub to hub about 12" below the floor. I see no reason why that vent shouldn't be in the vertical position, nor why the inspectors would sign that garbage off. I didn't have a level to put on it, but it sure even looked opposite grade from the vent to the drain.

Is it just prideless work, or really not knowing how to be a plumber?

I should take a picture of it. If I can remember when I go back over.
Revisiting this. I went back today to put in the shower drain and work on the gas line which I can't finish because the supplier failed me on a termination fitting.

Unfortunately I fell asleep on the couch last night so my cell phone was dead.
When I go back i'm going to blow up the photos.

I did however look a lot closer at this crappy crap. Right off the bat I can tell that a section of pipe about 8 feet long is missing one support. The 4" drain has a section that is almost flat (when I say almost, it's going the wrong way, but nearly flat) The only drainage fittings are the ones that connect to the main line. All of the branches of branches are made with tees on their sides and short sweep 90's. The branch line for the shower has no vent(also looks like about 10% grade), but it looks like possibly a horizontal wet vent, which completely baffles my mind. That's a different story, however. The fittings are still wrong.

Not a single joint on the copper water system that I could see has been wiped. Offsets were made between hot and cold by heating and bending the M copper. The hot water side has a recirculating system and it is only M copper. 3 ball valves at the water heater drain port, yet not a single check valve for the recirc line. T&P does not go anywhere due to the water heater being in the basement.

This friggin thing has a fail written all over it. Looks like I might get a couple days of work out of redoing this crappy crap after the inspector comes around. I will literally be shocked if it passes. If it does, then I do know for a fact that this county does not actually care about building inspections, only revenue.
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This morning's mission replace a kitchen faucet, I found out another way to install a dishwasher connection!

Counter top soaked and rotted....I did a little chiseling...

I had to replace this valve, HOLY SMOKES AND FIRE! The guy had put some silicone to stop it from leaking. It was a very tight spot and when I put the torch to it it flamed and smoked! Had to dismantle it and scrape it clean first.
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My Master once told me he he once came across a first floor stool re directed to a basement floor drain via 1 1/2Ē pvc. No picture, but no reason to not believe him.
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