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Old 07-09-2018, 10:29 PM   #511
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Nobody has Knipex? I guess it's true that a majority of people use the Channellocks. I started with the Irwin Groovelock pliers. They were pretty good new but not after a lot of use. I would clean and file the teeth every now and then and they would be alright. I bought 2 of the 10" Knipex Cobra pliers a couple years ago and they are the real deal. They grip ridiculously well. The width of the jaw is pretty narrow too, so you can get it in tighter spots. 1/2",3/4",1" and 1-1/4" if you're feeling motivated. On threaded steel, I usually use them to get it as tight as I can and finish it with a pipe wrench, which usually isn't much. You don't realize how slim the jaws are on the Knipex until you use other brands, then they all feel clunky. A little more expensive than other pliers but I think they're worth it. I had to get used to adjusting the jaws since it was a little different. I've never been pinched by them either, so that's nice. Milwaukee makes a pair of pliers that have a similar jaw design and shape but they are nowhere near as good. My helper and my boss both have a pair, I think they are the absolute worst pliers. They don't bite for nothing. But I do second the Channellock slim-jaw wrench. That thing is also the real deal. It has fit into some spots nothing else would. Buy that and Knipex pliers, you'll never look back.

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Old 07-10-2018, 01:11 AM   #512
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They are just fine as far a I remember but I normally use either my adjustable wideazz channellock or a regular channellock pliers. Just because it's in my everyday toolbag. I have my smooth jaw set in an extra toolbag with special tools because I don't normally use them too often.
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How are those for tightening 1/2” and 3/4” IP valves and things like that?


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Have you guys ever seen someone flare plastic pipe like this before? Doesn’t seem like a good idea to me but maybe it was acceptable back in the day?
That was very common when I was very young (before I began my "illustrious career" - late 70's to early 80's?). I watched my Dad do it a lot - even did a few myself. It worked pretty well at the time. You put the tool in the pipe and just cranked the handle till the pipe was flared - I guess friction heat helped the poly hold the flare. Worked fairly quickly. The method went away, so I assume there were probably some failures.
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Only channel lock brand channel locks for me too and only rigid pipe wrenches - I have never used any other brand that was someone else’s that I liked - besides Douglass are ok and those wylde look just like them
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I don’t even know what that fitting that’s connected to the sink actually is, but at least there’s a p-trap with cleanout, so the whole line can be cabled easily 😄
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I don’t even know what that fitting that’s connected to the sink actually is, but at least there’s a p-trap with cleanout, so the whole line can be cabled easily 😄
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Only channel lock brand channel locks for me too and only rigid pipe wrenches - I have never used any other brand that was someone else’s that I liked - besides Douglass are ok and those wylde look just like them
Only, only, only Channel Locks, Crescent Wrench and Ridgid.
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Basically: in accessible (handicap) washrooms, there has to be enough clearance for a person in a wheelchair to wheel up to a sink and wash their hands without smashing their legs/knees on the fixture drain or trap.
*the fitting should be rotated 180deg so it drains towards the wall.
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