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Old 02-05-2020, 06:58 PM   #1
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Default Totally perplexed:kit.sink overflows,twice in condo. No one lived there for 2-1/2 yrs

My sons mother was diagnosed with cancer and relocated with family prior to her death one plus year ago. Her 6th floor condo has been empty since
relocating ~ 2.5 years ago. The unit has been unoccupied for ~ 2.5 years.

On 22 December 2019, at 10:30 PM, building maintenance received a call
from answering service re: B401, one floor below B501, her unit. Water was
coming from ceiling areas into his unit. Maintenance entered B401 and observed. The flow had stopped by this point as B401 occupant had been out that evening. I'm not certain if maintenance entered B501 or not. (note: condo manager is on vacation during this period so 'owner' calls go to answering service.)

On 27 December 2019, 2:30 PM maintenance received a call again, from answering service re: B401 with water entering his unit from ceiling / walls. As they were onsite this time maintenance enters B501 and observes wet floor in kitchen / LR and the sink 3/4 full of water. Maintenance utilizes plunger to attempt to dislodge blockage. Maintenance indicates that when plunging, the drain coughed-back-up the liquid as well as debris.

January 8 2020, my son finally receives a call from condo manager indicating the problem. He visits the condo that PM and takes pictures.


I will say that at this point, I was extremely fearful as I had installed a new
kitchen faucet two weeks prior. The pictures indicated that the overflow did come from the sink drain and not due to my install. The pictures show the dried residue in the sink as 'flaking' pieces from the 70 year old drain system as well as unidentified other material in the bottom of the sink. There were also 'fresher' dried food bits on the counter-top.


Subsequent to these events, I spent time with the two maintenance guys to attempt to determine exactly happened.

This week, we had a visual/video inspection performed on the system down
to 21 feet. No obvious obstructions were seen ! This same day one of the
maintenance guys (#2) indicated that they had done an inspection of B601 for 'piping' work that had been done in the kitchen. B601 does NOT have a disposal.

Understand that the condo manager has a 'hands-off' approach and anything within/between unit owners although she did allow me to spend 30 minutes talking with the two maintenance guys.

Unit B401 below had significant damage to ceilings, walls and floor (old
Parquet) and the two/three units below him had varying levels of water
intrusion.

So, what in the heck could have happened ? My son/mother Parquet floor is gone. 7 inch ridges at places.

The amount of water that seems to have exited the sink seems enormous. The stack involved only supports the six kitchen units, per maintenance.

Ideas are much appreciated !


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SORRY !!! Guys / Gals didn't read the fine print.
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SORRY !!! Guys / Gals didn't read the fine print.

Woh! Youíre a good person! Most donít catch that!

Honestly Iíd like to go there to diagnose the issue. From what you wrote the leak is definitely on the drain side. I have seen this before in a stacked system, but most of the time itís the first floor thatís effected.

Your best bet in my opinion is to hire an experienced plumber, the kind with bad knees, and a bad rotator cuff. I know we say that to all non plumbers, but they usually have common issues. You really do need a licensed plumber.

Good luck and let us know the outcome.
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Best non plumber response ever.
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Ah, another far and few between that can bow out gracefully.....
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Woh! Youíre a good person! Most donít catch that!

Honestly Iíd like to go there to diagnose the issue. From what you wrote the leak is definitely on the drain side. I have seen this before in a stacked system, but most of the time itís the first floor thatís effected.

Your best bet in my opinion is to hire an experienced plumber, the kind with bad knees, and a bad rotator cuff. I know we say that to all non plumbers, but they usually have common issues. You really do need a licensed plumber.

Good luck and let us know the outcome.

Thanks Open !! and thanks to ALL Will update when resolved.
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