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Old 01-07-2020, 11:31 AM   #11
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I’ve heard that RO systems are crap, in general. I know nothing about them, but some ppl think it’s worse then unfiltered water.
In some ways it is worse. But like I said, it’s a good blank slate to build your water profile. Adding sulfates and other nutrients to build taste and mouthfeel is healthier than just RO. I mistakenly tried to build a water profile with distilled water early on, didn’t work out as well. I’m not really sure why yet, but once I took some advice to switch to RO my water is so much better.
Years ago I did some indoor gardening, for a while I would get RO water from a hydroponic store.
What a pain it was lugging the jugs Of water back and forth. I don’t know if it made a dif, but apparently the fertilizer mixed better into the RO water vs distilled water.
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I do quite a bit of water treatment and to date have never installed a whole house unit.
Keep in mind that 90% of my customers are on well water and you can not have iron in the water unless treated.
The better units waste considerably less water than good ones, some of the cheaper units are 2-1 even 3-1 i.e. 2 gallons filtered for one gallon of treated.
point of use is the way to go or dedicated cold lines to lav,kitchen,ice maker etc.
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If you are on a city supply look into chloramines that are used to treat the city supply, pretty interesting and eye opening.
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City water. Yes many people have softeners in this town, our water is that bad. However if you brew with softened water every batch will have some really bad off flavors.

My club is focused on education. Every month we have a beer of the month. Two commercial controls and compare them to home brew of that style using BJCP guidelines. We also have a small class every month. We had two different classes last year about water profile and off flavors caused by using different types of water.
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I just quoted a whole house RO system for a customer who's too close to the ocean and has high sodium in there well. My cost for the materials was over $15,000. And I think it's was a 4-1 waste ratio. Needless to say we're going to bury a 2000 gallon tank in the ground and they will have water trucked in. But this is the second one I've had quoted. The last one was for high nitrates. Around the same cost just for material. I could dig around and find the slip if you want to see what the system would include

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I just quoted a whole house RO system for a customer who's too close to the ocean and has high sodium in there well. My cost for the materials was over $15,000. And I think it's was a 4-1 waste ratio. Needless to say we're going to bury a 2000 gallon tank in the ground and they will have water trucked in. But this is the second one I've had quoted. The last one was for high nitrates. Around the same cost just for material. I could dig around and find the slip if you want to see what the system would include

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Yeah, $15k is a bit steep, lol!

Probably 7 years ago my former Master and I gat called out to his in-laws house for low water pressure. They are on a well outside of town. All copper. We replaced the whole house filter, softener and installed an iron curtain. The iron curtain was something like $8k alone!

Amazing how much water treatment can cost!
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I do quite a bit of water treatment and to date have never installed a whole house unit.
Keep in mind that 90% of my customers are on well water and you can not have iron in the water unless treated.
The better units waste considerably less water than good ones, some of the cheaper units are 2-1 even 3-1 i.e. 2 gallons filtered for one gallon of treated.
point of use is the way to go or dedicated cold lines to lav,kitchen,ice maker etc.
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Thatís definitely something to think about! Thanks!

One b!+ch everyone in my town is the cost of our crappy water. Honestly I donít get it. Thereís three of us here, I donít feel like we conserve water at all. Heck, my kid has to take a bath every night because of his eczema. Our bill is $45-50 per month, while others complain of bills triple ours.
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Years ago I did some indoor gardening, for a while I would get RO water from a hydroponic store.
What a pain it was lugging the jugs Of water back and forth. I donít know if it made a dif, but apparently the fertilizer mixed better into the RO water vs distilled water.
Tell me about it! For a 5 gallon all grain batch I need 7-8 gallons depending on the grain bill and boil off. Not to mention that I drink a gallon of water a day. I use to buy my water from a local convenience store chain, but they closed their RO plant. Now Iím getting it from the grocery store and itís not as good.
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OpenSights,
I have had a Rai* Sof* system for over 30 years with a point of use RO at the kitchen sink. I think your best be would be to get a "Better than Big Box" store Softener system and do a single point of use RO. The one we have came with a life time media warranty and besides some leaks on the RO unit I have had no problems. This brand, at least the one we have, uses 50# block salt which only has a 1'x1' foot print for the brine tank. I put a Sear* softner in my MIL's house that is on well water and it's been good for going on 20 years.
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Years ago I did some indoor gardening, for a while I would get RO water from a hydroponic store.
What a pain it was lugging the jugs Of water back and forth. I donít know if it made a dif, but apparently the fertilizer mixed better into the RO water vs distilled water.

hmm indoor gardening...growing some herb??
ro takes everything out of the water and thats not good for many things, minerals and certain natural elements of water are needed for growing , cooking and even human health....
I just use a britta water pitcher with filter cartridges, takes some vocs out and makes public water taste better ....were all gona die some day so going crazy over water isnt going to make a huge difference with all the other crap we are exposed to..
the water from my wells upstate is super great tasting and smelling and looks crystal clear with no filtering....
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