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Old 11-02-2018, 09:08 PM   #311
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Hired to fix a hack job for a hack price(part 2)


So here is my office job today...Remove hackery and leaks and reinstall. I had to fool around to take the drain out, only tightened by hand and also impossible to turn it out and I couldn't find my tool. I probably left it at another customer. Funny thing when I forget a tool somewhere they know about it but they never call me to let me know! Why??

Anyway I didn't have to open the ceiling, she didn't want me to remove the trap with a C/O... So I was 500$ below my estimate and she still complained about the price and she said she would leave a good review? What the hell?

About the faucet I did a test for 5 minutes and got 1.5 inches of water in the tub! So if my calculations are correct 73 minutes to fill the tub

And no she didn't want a tub faucet....









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Old 11-02-2018, 09:32 PM   #312
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My wife can't handle cold showers!


I was stuck between the previous home owner who hacked her own plumbing to hell to flip the house and the new homeowners who moved in last weekend. Getting paid was an ordeal!! I will leave out what the previous home owner's attitude was like and the events after the repair totally crazy... Water was leaking through the shower, 1/2 gap of the glass to the base, the glass support bar not even anchored to the wall and the main concern wasn't having any hot water anywhere in the house. She didn't want to pay to have the problem fixed and made them wait several days before calling someone. I was the 3rd plumber there(they didn't find the problem) and the gas company who spent all day changing water heater parts twice!!

I found out they had installed the shower faucet sideways.

The new homeowners(Super nice people) are going to call me back for a quote to fix all the other issues.


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Old 11-04-2018, 11:40 AM   #313
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Hired to fix a hack job for a hack price

Got a call for a ceiling stain and leak. I lean over the tub and it moves and wobbles, I pull the plug to see a tailpiece washer that's sticking out.

I explain I have to open the ceiling cut the water pipes, cut the drain, raise the tub and fix the plumbing and tell her the tub isn't even fixed in place. Got to find a way to anchor it.(I thought of something)

She replies why you don't you just fix it? No mam it's not a 10 minute job. The renovation hasn't been done by a plumber. She replies no they did it themselves or... So the husband comes home 30 minutes later and I explain again. He set an appointment to fix the issue. I finish the invoice and she says, you are taking all of our money. (I'm thinking to myself, why do you call for a service if you don't want to really pay?)

Then she says can we do under the table payment no taxes? Come on!!! So I say mam I'm here to fix the hack plumbing that was done under the table in the first place!. No you get a receipt, done right.


I guess it doesn't compute with some of them.

Anyway I'm doing the repair this friday. Check out the lav faucet, It was cheaper and cost effective that way.



Well the lav facet is a first for me. I want to see how long it takes to fill up.
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Well the lav facet is a first for me. I want to see how long it takes to fill up.
My boss used to always tell me a story about this cheapa%% builder who tried strong-arming him into putting a kitchen sink faucet in place of a tub filler.


He refused to install it, and IIRC they had him put angle stops under the tub and they mounted the sink faucet themselves.
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Old 11-04-2018, 07:24 PM   #315
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Well the lav facet is a first for me. I want to see how long it takes to fill up.

About the faucet I did a test for 5 minutes and got 1.5 inches of water in the tub! So if my calculations are correct 73 minutes to fill the tub!
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:09 PM   #316
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Company doing illegal plumbing caught red handed.


I was called to fix a leaky valves, when I got there the man mad prepped the basement so a crew could build an interior french drain. I told him I could give him a quote for the sump pit and pump, he said the crew would be doing it. I told him they weren’t plumbers and they were doing illegal plumbing and if a sewer back up occur again(whole neighborhood flooded a few month ago by rain and sewer) in the neighborhood you are not covered.

I do my thing and the crew shows up to start. They ask a few easy plumbing questions and I’m pretty vague. The homeowner schedule me later in the day to fix the floor clean out. I show up this morning and the guy greets me in red plaid flannel pajamas, It really gave me the impression of a little kid’s Winnie the pooh 1 piece pajamas. The crew were sanding the foundation wall, dust so thick and loud I got a mask from the truck to check the C/O. I took a few picture of what they had started, sump pump evidence.

I gave the guy the estimate and told him I had to break concrete and I’d do it when they finish their dust. He calls me in the afternoon and ask if the crew can put the sump discharge in the main line. At that moment I was angry. I told him flat out he had hired a company who did illegal plumbing and I wasn’t ready to help them out I told him I could show my books. Then he says he’s going to have them break the concrete for me so I can charge less!

What would you guys do? I could denounce the company and they would probably get a 15 000$ fine+court fees but the association would talk to the home owner about the situation and he would be angry at me. He could tarnish my name.

Or let it slide do my job and let him stew with his hacks and possible flood. Well he didn’t listen to me the first time, didn’t really care the second time. Saving a buck is a powerful stick and carrot. Oh I bet the sump job is going to be so messed up I’ll just keep my mouth shut.

My idea right now now I'll just do my job and move on.







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If you're pissed cuz he is trying to save money and you're trying to take it than I think you should just tell him you can't be a party to his scheme and leave.
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My beef is like the clerk at HD told me yesterday, "Everybody can do plumbing and everybody can do electricity".

The issue in this particular case is not about me making more money, although I want plumbing jobs I worked very hard to get a license for while all these companies and GCs doing illegal plumbing and taking it away from us. I would care a little less if the majority were legit and I had enough work. They are stealing from plumbers and cheating people by installing pipe backwards.

I'll be thinking about deciding not to do the job, I bet by now they chipped the floor and he'll cry foul if I back out.
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My beef is like the clerk at HD told me yesterday, "Everybody can do plumbing and everybody can do electricity".
Did you tell her she was a friggin idiot? No, everybody cannot. Some people are physically incapable of doing so. Some people are not smart enough. Some people don't have enough time in the day, and SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT LICENSING.

Other than that, yes, everybody can do plumbing and electricity.

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Typical. When I was still in the field I would have plumbers ask me questions about required licensing & permits. "Complain" about un-licensed people doing work (not as concerned if a licensed person did not secure a permit).

I would ask did you contact the State plumbing inspector or the local plumbing inspector. Dead silence,,,, crickets.... Would tick me off, first you complain then you do nothing (speaking generally not directed at you). No wonder the trade is going downhill. Our license is hard earned, mandated by laws (in many instances) yet some shy away from keeping it protected. I would tell them that is what I am here for. In my jurisdiction let me know I will look into and file a complaint with the State if valid. At least keep an eye out for hacks.


Kind of like voting. If you don't do it don't B***h. Protect the trade or be ready for it to go away.
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