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Old 05-07-2019, 10:37 PM   #41
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Only thing they inspect around here is rough plumbing when we are doing a new house or reno. They only inspect the PVC : So your telling me to even install a water heater you need an inspector to check it out to make sure it was installed right ?
Yes sir. A heater permit is $125.
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Old 05-08-2019, 08:23 AM   #42
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Yes sir. A heater permit is $125.
Take a look at my post in general plumbing discussion titled bad plumbing their is a video I put on there ,
what would have the inspector did in that situation
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Only thing they inspect around here is rough plumbing when we are doing a new house or reno. They only inspect the PVC : So your telling me to even install a water heater you need an inspector to check it out to make sure it was installed right ?
I have my suffolk master plumbers license and have worked in most towns in suffolk( not the hamptons) and you technically need a permit for anything but a repair, now that doesnt mean you get one for changing a toilet or sink, but any renovation with a building permit you need a plumbing permit and 3 inspections, under ground, rough inspection, and finish, and another inspection for any gas work with an air test now( they outlawed any mercury testers)..so how can the hamptons only do a pvc inspection and call it good?
also permits and inspections for any heating or water heating equipment installed....
and some municipalities want a licensed plumber to file for HVAC for the water line for a humidifier and drain lines for the condensate..
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Im telling you its a joke, that's why a lot of unlicensed plumbers are out here getting away with it. We have to have underground work inspected as well if work is in slab, and yes we air test the gas and if national grid wants a letter head we provide it, but the inspectors are only concern about PVC work. Its Crazy I can remember when I was in local union 200 based out of Nassau county we were doing a lot of community developments and only thing I remember being tested was the gas with mercury test. we didn't fill the pvc with water or anything else
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Im telling you its a joke, that's why a lot of unlicensed plumbers are out here getting away with it. We have to have underground work inspected as well if work is in slab, and yes we air test the gas and if national grid wants a letter head we provide it, but the inspectors are only concern about PVC work. Its Crazy I can remember when I was in local union 200 based out of Nassau county we were doing a lot of community developments and only thing I remember being tested was the gas with mercury test. we didn't fill the pvc with water or anything else

what township only inspects pvc? suffolk county or some small village or township? most areas still only visual inspect the DWV system, north hempstead and a few villages want a water test...
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what township only inspects pvc? suffolk county or some small village or township? most areas still only visual inspect the DWV system, north hempstead and a few villages want a water test...
East Hampton/ Southampton/Sag Harbor/Shelter island
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East Hampton/ Southampton/Sag Harbor/Shelter island
I guess those little out of the way towns can do as they please..they probably dont want to spend the salary to have inspectors inspect..lol
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Opensites....What version of code are you working with?
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Update. Had a couple inspections yesterday with inspector B and asked him about this issue. Apparently there’s a code in the mechanical code book that’s not in the plumbing code book. Because of the size of the chimney, 8x12 I think he said, it is oversized for the btu’s of the furnace and heater. Somehow the 4/3” vent fcks with the math and needs to be a 4” not tapered down to 3”.

I’m not a HVAC tech, understand very little of the trade and code. In plumbing and drain cleaning, there are many codes I agree with, but some I think are totally unnecessary and only there for permit revenue.

As I do both Plumbing and Mechanical it is covered in the plumbing UPC and the Mechanical UMC with the same verbage.

It's about sizing a chimney for the appliance(s) and sizing the connecting arm of the appliance to the common flue.

UPC 510.5.3 and the catcher is 510.5.4(Inspection of Chimney) that will force you in to placing a liner in the chimney unless you can verify 100% no cracks in the chimney.

More times over we convert the WH to electric vs connecting two appliances to a liner. At some point the furnace will go 90%+.

Even your mechanical inspector seems like an idiot.
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Opensites....What version of code are you working with?
To be honest I have no clue really. Plumbing inspector pulled it out of the mechanical code book. The “angriest mayor” in America, Virge, really did a number on that city. Inspectors are required to find reinspection fees. No joke! A former employee of my Master, who was fired for stealing, is a city plumbing inspector let it slip.
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