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Old 04-10-2019, 03:09 PM   #1
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Default Failed heater inspection.

We replaced a water heater in a rental a few weeks ago. Usually we are present for inspection unless it’s something simple like a heater or laundry at a rental.

We have two inspectors in this one city, inspector A and inspector B. Inspector A is a moron and can’t seem to figure out how to use a phone in order return a call, inspector B had to take the Master test ten times and was fired by my Master years ago for stealing (also one of my Master’s worst plumber, but awesome drain cleaner).

We prefer inspector B because we can at least get a call back. This particular LL likes inspector A.

So inspector A shows up a half hour late. Says to the LL “Oh, you’re the LL. Sorry, my computer has issues and had to drop it off at IT. All I know is the address and the plumber who pulled the permit. What am I hear to inspect?”

LL: “Water heater”

Inspector A: “Oh, I hope he did his math!”

WTF????

We install to code. 4” vent, plastic drip tube secured to the heater (instead of burning up a flat mickey we 45 the bottom and secure it with a zip screw, like a laundry stand pipe). First thing inspector A does is yank on it real hard. Not once but twice. Then he kicks the heater up to max to check the vent draw. “Yep, it’s good.” Turns it back down and sticks his hand in the vent hood. “I can’t pass this. He used a 3” vent hood.”

LL: “So what do we need to do?”

Inspector A: “He (the plumber) needs to figure it out.” When LL asks what he means... “I haven’t bought a heater in 12 years, he’ll just have to figure it out.”


I don’t know about any of you, but neither my Master nor I have ever seen seen a 4” only vent hood. Besides, manufacture specs supersedes code. Right after we met with the LL on a different job we had to stop by the supply house for tomorrow’s job and asked if they had ever heard of one. Nope.

We’ve butted heads with this idiot in the past.

One example was an RO system we put in. We protected the RO system that fed three coffee makers with air gaps. (Specialty coffee, not like gas station coffee makers.) He made us protect each fixture.
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Old 04-10-2019, 04:23 PM   #2
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Cripes, good thing we don't have them, and stupid. When and if we ever see one they will end up filing in complaint paperwork.
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Cripes, good thing we don't have them, and stupid. When and if we ever see one they will end up filing in complaint paperwork.
You don’t have inspectors??!!?!! Really? The official who determines if the plumbing work was performed in compliance with the health and safety of the nation... they don’t inspect?
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You don’t have inspectors??!!?!! Really? The official who determines if the plumbing work was performed in compliance with the health and safety of the nation... they don’t inspect?
I said it many times, no inspectors, the government doesn't have the budget or something.

On big jobs usually the engineer who made the plans who inspects but not always. New residential nothing.

You should see how many corners are cut. You cut corners you get to keep your job in most cases. You as a plumber who tries to follow code amongst all other employees you are the first to get laid off. Time is money!
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Mirror. $125 us for a heater permit. All about the money here.
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Mirror. $125 us for a heater permit. All about the money here.
What about the homeowner and he does it himself? I bet he doesn't need to pay that.
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What about the homeowner and he does it himself? I bet he doesn't need to pay that.
Legally HO permit. I didn’t.
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The draft hood comes with the W/H from the mfg. and it will fit either 3" or 4". I don't install a lot, but I've seen this on all the recent installs that I've done. Is that what he's picking on?
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I am glad that this city and state does not require
permits to change out a simple water heater........it would raise
the price dramatically and waste a whole lot of time ....

The plumber would be punished but the guy who goes to a hardware
store and buys his own would get away with doing it himself.....

it is Just something else to make work and collect fees for


the inspectors in our area do not know what they are doing and
someday I would LOVE to have a position going around inspecting
jobs.... but I would probably not last long....

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The plumber would be punished but the guy who goes to a hardware
store and buys his own would get away with doing it himself.....





That's what it is here, plumbing contractors are supposed to send in 22$ for a water heater. The home owner doesn't need to. I'd be surprised if any company sends that money in.

The ascociation has been asking the ministry to remove that fee for a while. The elected had promised they would remove it but didn't.
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