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Old 04-01-2016, 06:41 PM   #11
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Flat rate puts 10's of thousands of excess dollars in my checking account.
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Old 04-08-2016, 05:02 PM   #12
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We are T&M. We mark up the press fittings a lot more than copper fittings
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Old 05-09-2016, 02:16 PM   #13
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We charge a flat equipment fee, but mark up all fittings accordingly.

Flat rate is great, but ALL of our commercial customers REQUIRE us to break down to Labor/Materials/Equipment etc...
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We charge a flat equipment fee, but mark up all fittings accordingly.

Flat rate is great, but ALL of our commercial customers REQUIRE us to break down to Labor/Materials/Equipment etc...
I've never even been asked to break down my labor/materials/etc. Who's got the time for that? Who dictates the profit margin?
Do you add in a percentage of time for van/shop cleaning or oil changes or do you do that for free? Pulling a permit, bidding on jobs you don't get, so many things that are done away from the job.

Never will I breakout costs for a customer.
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1st foot of 1/2 copper and 2 fittings= $189
every foot of 1/2 is $19
every 1/2 fitting is $29
A valve= 2 fittings
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1st foot of 3/4 copper and 2 fittings= $249
every foot of 3/4 is $24
every 3/4 fitting is $39
A valve= 2 fittings
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1" copper and the prices are a little more...and so on
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I do this for all piping types
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1st ft of 2" pvc and 2 fittings= $249
every fitting is $49
every ft of pipe is $24
traps are 2 fittings
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I have a page for copper a page for pvc a page for cast and a page for iron
4 pages to price out repipes, then i have my top page with pricing that goes from 139,249,289,389,489,589 and in them are all the little things that can not be priced by a piping page such as reset toilet, in the $249 bracket, build customer supplied toilet $139,trip to supply house $139, faucet swap, shower bodey pricing, ect.
I have managed to squeeze every single price I need on 5 easy pages. This is for residential service in my situation.
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I've never even been asked to break down my labor/materials/etc. Who's got the time for that? Who dictates the profit margin?
Do you add in a percentage of time for van/shop cleaning or oil changes or do you do that for free? Pulling a permit, bidding on jobs you don't get, so many things that are done away from the job.

Never will I breakout costs for a customer.
I refuse to break down my pricing and when they insist i say o but there is a 139 charge for that.... it ends the conversation very quickly.
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Flat rate puts 10's of thousands of excess dollars in my checking account.
We never did flat rate. I have a couple in my area that do. I know I am going to get my ear chewed on but to me it is a dis-service to the public. I know I would never die rich. When I used to do service and run across a grandma with a fixed income, run a closet auger and charge $45.00 (some 20 years ago) then hear in a wobbly voice "can I make payments" it crushed me. Half the time I just tore the ticket up.

That is one reason I got out of the contracting end many years ago, except from project development.

When I see some of the prices home owners pay for lets say a 30 gal natural WH going for $1,400.00 to $1,600.00 I just want to beat someone. That's why I invested in Kevlar...........
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We never did flat rate. I have a couple in my area that do. I know I am going to get my ear chewed on but to me it is a dis-service to the public. I know I would never die rich. When I used to do service and run across a grandma with a fixed income, run a closet auger and charge $45.00 (some 20 years ago) then hear in a wobbly voice "can I make payments" it crushed me. Half the time I just tore the ticket up.

That is one reason I got out of the contracting end many years ago, except from project development.

When I see some of the prices home owners pay for lets say a 30 gal natural WH going for $1,400.00 to $1,600.00 I just want to beat someone. That's why I invested in Kevlar...........
It's hard to run a business when you lose money. No profit, no business. Stupidly simple; embarrassing though that I took years to figure that out.
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We charge for entry equipment pump to threading machine. If it leaves the shop it gets paid too. Pro press standard fee is $50. Wether it's 1 press or 50. Dump bed trailer. Wackier packer. Jack hammer. All have to be charged for
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We never did flat rate. I have a couple in my area that do. I know I am going to get my ear chewed on but to me it is a dis-service to the public. I know I would never die rich. When I used to do service and run across a grandma with a fixed income, run a closet auger and charge $45.00 (some 20 years ago) then hear in a wobbly voice "can I make payments" it crushed me. Half the time I just tore the ticket up.

That is one reason I got out of the contracting end many years ago, except from project development.

When I see some of the prices home owners pay for lets say a 30 gal natural WH going for $1,400.00 to $1,600.00 I just want to beat someone. That's why I invested in Kevlar...........
Im in business to make money and the government is for welfare.....sorry but I cant give my services away, and sometimes half if not more of the sad stories are just that, stories to get you to drop your price..so now when im out of business because I gave away or under charged for my services, who is going to give me a break with my bills???? being in business, or I should say running your business is a brutal position and no place for too many emotions....ill give freebies or do some extra but not for charity..to get more business or to throw a bone on a big job...let hillbagger give tax money away....sounds cold but if you want to make it in business and survive long time..thats what it takes..if you cant..go work for someone and collect your pay check... noone said it would be easy...
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