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Old 06-25-2017, 10:20 PM   #51
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Bradford white has gone down in last few yrs,gas and electric,this year alone I had 2 natural gas Bradford whites that would not stay lit,first one I changed out,second one I replaced icon valve with a new one along with the pilot assembly,but they are still junkkkkkk


You probably have an environmental issue causing backdrafting but you just want to replace parts.


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Bradford White is the only company that specifies their product should only be installed by plumbers.

All BW tanks are made in the US.

Bottom of BW tank is solid which allow for leveling without bypassing the air filter.

Manufacturing of BW is cleaner. Nipples and valves are square and stickers lay flat.

If you buy AO Smith or Rheem you are enabling them to sell out the box stores.




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No backdrafting issues,I removed the vent completely and they still would not stay lit,crappy icon valve and pilot assembly's,all water heaters are made cheaper these days,no matter the brand,companies want to make a cheaper product and sell it for maximum profit.there is no difference in water heaters these days,you are gonna get about 6yrs out of electric ones and maybe 10 out of gas once you get it going and replacing the pilot ass or gas valve or both
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Bradford White is the only company that specifies their product should only be installed by plumbers.

All BW tanks are made in the US.

Bottom of BW tank is solid which allow for leveling without bypassing the air filter.

Manufacturing of BW is cleaner. Nipples and valves are square and stickers lay flat.

If you buy AO Smith or Rheem you are enabling them to sell out the box stores.







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I Have not seen you here lately... Are you now installing the Bradfords>>?? I thought you were totally sold on A>O. Smiths?/

The ICON sucks but everyone is entitled to their opinion.. I suggest you keep a couple of ICON repair boxes in your truck at all times if you are doing them exclusively now....

We are finally over the hump with the Bradfords and have not had any more warranty issues with them .... Not installed them since the ICONS came out in 2010 and now we are in the clear...

No one has answered my venting question on the Vertex yet ....you got any answers on it??
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I Have not seen you here lately... Are you now installing the Bradfords>>?? I thought you were totally sold on A>O. Smiths?/

The ICON sucks but everyone is entitled to their opinion.. I suggest you keep a couple of ICON repair boxes in your truck at all times if you are doing them exclusively now....

We are finally over the hump with the Bradfords and have not had any more warranty issues with them .... Not installed them since the ICONS came out in 2010 and now we are in the clear...

No one has answered my venting question on the Vertex yet ....you got any answers on it??
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I have no idea,but would like to know also
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Yes I got away from AO Smith. Got tired of them treating the contractors like garbage. I have had good luck with both brands but some of the newer AO Smith tanks have been failing early. They made some great tanks but now are pushing out some cheap models to compete on price. What used to be labeled and sold as Whirlpool now has the AO Smith name and is sold in Lowes.




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As for the Vertex, my money is on the softener. There was also a commercial version of that tank that had similar failures over 10 years. Ended up having a bad gas regulator on the main.


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All the vertex heaters I've installed just had the exhaust off the top of the fan. They have all had that goofy pipe you have to install.


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I have yet to install one you have pictured.


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