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Old 06-09-2019, 10:30 AM   #11
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Welcome aboard great to have you.

Learn all that you can; ask questions. Learn the plumbing code. You are entering a great trade that will serve you and your family well going forward.

Should you ever go into service plumbing, this experience in new construction is by far the best preparation for a service plumber.
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Old 06-09-2019, 10:46 AM   #12
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Oh just a reminder to the OP. Make sure you actually are registered as an apprentice and that you have an apprentice card. Don't think or trust that the employer just did that for you. You are responsible for making sure the paperwork is in order or you could go years without actually being a registered apprentice and you would loose all those hours and have to begin from scratch again. Also new construction teaches you how things are run in the walks and the code for it but you would be wise to also learn service so you understand how things work and learn to troubleshoot plus then you know better how when building new how to best do it to make the life easier for the next guy who comes along and have to snake that drain or get to that valve or something like that

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I guess you need to plumbing school at some point?
I had my orientation(osha) week a month ago, I started school last week. 1 paid day a week for 3 years, then 4 hours a week unpaid for my last 2 years.
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Welcome aboard great to have you.

Learn all that you can; ask questions. Learn the plumbing code. You are entering a great trade that will serve you and your family well going forward.

Should you ever go into service plumbing, this experience in new construction is by far the best preparation for a service plumber.
We haven't learned code yet, but Chicago has one of the strictest codes so that should be fun.

I actually helped out on a service job last week, I learned Pro-pressing.
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Oh just a reminder to the OP. Make sure you actually are registered as an apprentice and that you have an apprentice card. Don't think or trust that the employer just did that for you. You are responsible for making sure the paperwork is in order or you could go years without actually being a registered apprentice and you would loose all those hours and have to begin from scratch again. Also new construction teaches you how things are run in the walks and the code for it but you would be wise to also learn service so you understand how things work and learn to troubleshoot plus then you know better how when building new how to best do it to make the life easier for the next guy who comes along and have to snake that drain or get to that valve or something like that

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Hail your way from Southern Illinois. You know we call you guys up there the "Country of Chicago".

Tango, If he is Union he must attend classes, 6,000 hours over a 4 year period. He has up to 6 years to complete apprentice hours and pass the exam to secure his license. If not he is out of the program (doing any plumbing) until he passes his exam.


Chicago (Cook County) by Illinois Law rules itself. It's own code and license program. The rest of the State must follow the Illinois Department of Public Health requirements and licensing program. As well as the published Plumbing Code, which does vary some from Chicago.
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Hail your way from Southern Illinois. You know we call you guys up there the "Country of Chicago".

Tango, If he is Union he must attend classes, 6,000 hours over a 4 year period. He has up to 6 years to complete apprentice hours and pass the exam to secure his license. If not he is out of the program (doing any plumbing) until he passes his exam.


Chicago (Cook County) by Illinois Law rules itself. It's own code and license program. The rest of the State must follow the Illinois Department of Public Health requirements and licensing program. As well as the published Plumbing Code, which does vary some from Chicago.
From what I can see they can work first and attend classes later? Something like 400hours of classes each "year/grade 1 to 4"?

How many hours of classes do they need?

For us it's 1600 or 1800 hours of school then you can apply for your apprentice card. Those hours can be applied towards any apprentice year you want so you can put them in first and you'll be jumping almost in second year right away or wait at the end and jump altogether your 4th year to go try out the journeyman exam.

I put them right away because I calculated I would be losing money by putting them at the end like the majority of the guys do, they thought they weren't going to be hired because they cost more as a 4th year. I told them they'd lose a minimum of 10 000$/year in wages. I got hired anyway and worked, who's the smarter bear?

For us its 8000 hrs to be eligible for the journeyman exam.

The exception if there's a shortage of labor they can bypass school and they'll get a letter in the mail to attend school at some point or they disqualify you if you don't go.
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I live in Minnesota and work in both Minnesota and North Dakota. I don't know about union but as non union we don't need any schooling just the hours and time limit before we can test for journeyman and I forget which state is how many hours but one is 7000 the other is 7600 and both also require a minimum of 4 years. Then after that in order to test for master one state requires 1 years worth of journeyman experience and the other require 2 years.

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The Country of Chicago is different than the rest of the State. The 6,000 hours is for the rest of the State. To be honest I can't quote exactly what Chicago does. Whatever they do it can't be less than the rest of the State by the license law.

The rest of Illinois does not have a master license. You only have apprentice a licensed plumber or licensed plumbing contractor. Journeymen refers to the Union.

Once licensed one can pay additional fees, get insurance, secure a bond. Then you can contract work out.
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Don't be afraid to post pictures of your work either. Many of us snake drains so our work looks like schit too!






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