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Old 02-04-2016, 09:20 PM   #1
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Default Washer drain: FOAM/SUDS!!!! HELP!!! PLEASE!!!

Had a call on what I thought was a backed up Washer drain.
We thoroughly augured / cleaned the 2 inch ABS line.
The drain takes all the WATER from the washing machine with NO PROBLEMS.
At the very end of the spin cycle the drain hose from washing machine produces a LARGE AMOUNT OF FOAM AND SUDS. It is at this time when the 2 inch riser overflows with SUDS/foam. (((NO WATER))))... The drain has discharged all of the water with NO PROBLEMS....
The home owner says he is using the same detergent that he has used for the past 4.5 years. Same detergent same amount of detergent ,same machine...

Now we have soap suds party every time the machine hits the very end of the spin cycle..


THE LINE IS CLEAR, THE TRAP IS CLEAR. IT TAKES OUT ALL OF THE WATER WITH NO PROBLEMS,NO BACK UP.... ONLY SUDS/FOAM..HELP PLEASE
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Old 02-04-2016, 10:17 PM   #2
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Video inspect the line, something is not right.

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What did you auger the line with and what did you pull out?
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We had a soap suds problem from a 3 compartment into a 4" hub drain. Overflowed with Suds every time the sink was filled. I always assumed the wall mounted soap mixer was bad but never convinced the guy (subway restaurant owner) to try and change it. How much soap are they using may I ask?
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How long is the stand pipe that the washer discharges into? Here in Canada it has to be minimum of 24" from hose to trap.

Something does seem fishy tho. Why the problem now and not 4 years ago. You may not be getting the whole story from the HO.
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Did they by chance put in a watersoftner because that would mean they now need less soap to do the same job which means now they are technically using too much soap.
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I've seen this before. In my case it was the washer.

6 loads of hot water with a LOT of bleach cleaned out the soap build up in the washer and it went away.
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They are over-soaping or else they need a new washing machine is what comes to mind for me. Maybe the machine is not getting all the soap out when it is supposed to come out; and the soap comes out at the end of the cycle from the machine producing too much suds in the pipe.

Is it a new washing machine? The newer machines discharge the water faster {I think} and if the drain line is only 2", that could be a problem. The current code here in FL requires a 3" stack with a 2" standpipe for new installs. Maybe they got a new machine recently and it's overloading their undersized piping. My 2 cents.
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They are over-soaping or else they need a new washing machine is what comes to mind for me. Maybe the machine is not getting all the soap out when it is supposed to come out; and the soap comes out at the end of the cycle from the machine producing too much suds in the pipe....
That is exactly what is happening.
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I've seen this before. In my case it was the washer.

6 loads of hot water with a LOT of bleach cleaned out the soap build up in the washer and it went away.










That makes perfect sense to me.
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