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Old 06-08-2019, 09:55 AM   #11
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Anyone see in the first 2 videos an accident waiting to happen? They have a guest necklace tag dangling over the spinning cable.

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Then is it me it looks like it has a hard time cutting the zip ties? Seems the cutter stalls on impact. Gotta wait till full speed and shove it? Wouldn't it get tangled if there's a root ball and wipes?
I believe they're cutting through dowels. The sectional machines operate different than the drum machines. It's about cutting with speed, not so much torque. There are different techniques used between the 2.

With a sectional you're not going to want to muscle through like with a drum machine. You pull it back a bit if you feel it's stuck, let it reach full speed and let it engage the blockage again. There are times you can muscle through a clog but if you're not using an inner core cable it's likely you'll kink a cable.

Most main line drum machines can't reach 300 RPM while sectionals will easily double that. One thing that's held me back from buying a sectional for main line use is the auto feed and retrieve feature my K-7500 and Duracable dm-175 have. Now that it's available I'll probably put one of those up for sale to buy that sectional. That's assuming the price is reasonable. I've also been eyeing the k-5208 but was holding off to see what came out this year.

I've seen how much better the k-50 cleans a line than the k-3800 using chain knockers. It would make sense the scaled up versions would perform similarly.
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Old 06-08-2019, 06:39 PM   #12
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I was digging that auto retrive. I think what I liked the most is Milwaukee asked plumbers what they want and gave it to them instead of like some companies who tell customers what they want. Can't wait to see Milwaukee's camera inspection line?
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Genius....for Milwaukee. Have something run on battery, people will pay way more than it is worth, just because it runs on there battery that will have to be replaced at a premium price. No thanks.
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:19 AM   #14
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Genius....for Milwaukee. Have something run on battery, people will pay way more than it is worth, just because it runs on there battery that will have to be replaced at a premium price. No thanks.
Another problem with batteries is the technology constantly change, in 10 years the batteries might not fit and you'll need to buy a new machine!!

When is the last time batteries from this era fit your 15 year old cordless drill????
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Another problem with batteries is the technology constantly change, in 10 years the batteries might not fit and you'll need to buy a new machine!!

When is the last time batteries from this era fit your 15 year old cordless drill????









As a small one-man shop I have all electric tools. The only exception is a Milwaukee battery screw-gun {drill}. Over the years I have replaced the batteries several times and had to replace the battery charger too. If the battery charger gets wet, it is ruined. I had it outside one fine day and it started to drizzle, not even rain just a light drizzle and that fried my charger.


So for me, I'm happy with all electric. But I can see for the larger shops that are generating lots of revenue, battery tools are probably a good idea.
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I too am an all electric guy... I have a battery impact and cordless drill that's it... only use it when i have a few bands to tighten that are over head... if it's any serious drilling or anything else its corded...

90 percent of the time if my corded tool breaks down I can fix it myself.. with a switch or brushes
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I don't know what tools you guys use but I have Ridgid 18v tools. I'm able to use those batteries in the tools I bought 12 years ago and those I bought a few weeks ago. They have a lifetime warranty so I haven't had to buy batteries unless they came in a kit with newer tools I've bought. Milwaukee is the same with the battery compatibility but not the warranty.
This is the future. Battery powered tools aren't going to replace all corded tools. They're meant to supplement, at least for some people. As technology improves expect to see more tools doing what you could only do with a corded or gas power tool before.
I have opened many main lines and cut roots using just my 18v Ridgid drill and sectional cables. I have little doubt this machine, that's designed specifically for that, will be able to do a better job than a hand drill.
Sometimes I think people just get stuck in the past and refuse to believe new technology can surpass what they started out with. I have a corded 13 amp sawzall in my van but 99.99% of the time I'll reach for the cordless. It puts out similar, if not more, strokes per minute and I don't have to deal with a cord getting in the way or not being long enough. Heck, my 12v Milwaukee hammer drill is faster, smaller and stronger than the corded drill I started out with.
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I have many cordless tools,

drill, hackzall, sawzall(retired my corded one in the garage), portable mini fan, 2 types of flash light; All milwaukee. Then the inspection cam, chinese cam (corded or battery).

All the rest is corded because I know they may last a lifetime, I won't be buying new ones in 20 years because the batteries don't fit or dead. Also the cord isn't in the way like a drain machine, hammer drill, jack hammer etc.
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It's not that people refuse to change. I use cordless more than corded now, but some tools I will never use battery on, at least tell it makes business since to me. Drills, impacts, grinders, saws etc my Dewalt cordless works well. Clearing sewers, threading pipe, jackhammering concrete etc, those tools are better with electric and will be for a long time. No battery is going to replace them, at least not with technology out there right now. Battery tools cost double what corded tools cost, business wise they don't all make since. People will pay what they think is cool, that is why cordless tools sell. There like computers, tvs or phone, as soon as a new model is out and newer one is just around the corner to replace it and make you purchase it, it's big business for tool companies. They don't make cordless because they are better, they make them because they can sell you more, and keep you coming back and exclusive to there system.
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I have many cordless tools,

drill, hackzall, sawzall(retired my corded one in the garage), portable mini fan, 2 types of flash light; All milwaukee. Then the inspection cam, chinese cam (corded or battery).

All the rest is corded because I know they may last a lifetime, I won't be buying new ones in 20 years because the batteries don't fit or dead. Also the cord isn't in the way like a drain machine, hammer drill, jack hammer etc.
Will made me remember I also have a cordless grinder for my work van.
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