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Old 09-07-2019, 10:59 AM   #11
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Just curious....how long does your average mainline drain cleaning job take? From the time you're taking tools off the van to the time you're putting tools back in the van?
Probably 1.5-2.5 I would say average is 2 hours. Average sewer around here is probably around 60'-100' long and mostly 4"

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Old 09-07-2019, 11:02 AM   #12
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Just curious....how long does your average mainline drain cleaning job take? From the time you're taking tools off the van to the time you're putting tools back in the van?
Part of the time it takes is because we have the beast of a Gorlitz sled style machine and have to haul it down basements almost every time and we take the drum off the machine and haul it down in parts because it's so heavy.

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Probably 1.5-2.5 I would say average is 2 hours. Average sewer around here is probably around 60'-100' long and mostly 4"

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One guy or two? I always work alone. Two guys will make it go faster if at least one of them knows what to do and is willing to order the other around so they are constantly helping and not just standing there.


How long does it take you to deal with say 40 gallons of sewage you may get out of a basement cleanout?






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Like skoronesa said if you are pulling toilet or having issues draining lines first or something like that then it can run all the way up to 4 hours but most the time we can just wheel the machine and drum down the basement and then put it together and clean out from the clean out with out much trouble. So standard is 2 hours but yeah they can take longer. Sometimes we also have to put a second drum on because our cable is only 75'

I have never pulled back a really big root ball but I do normally get a couple hand full of roots back.

Tell me I can run out 100' of flex shaft in a 4" line, blind with no camera and clear a normal root blockage and I would happily buy that machine to not break my back hauling in a heavy drum machine and to not have as much of a mess. But it seems what I'm hearing is that that is not what it's strong side is so a drum machine would be better.

Maybe for smaller drain lines inside the house, but I'm being told that it can be hard to navigate a few fittings and a longer run so maybe I'll stick to the Ridgid k3800 I was planing on getting.

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Probably 1.5-2.5 I would say average is 2 hours. Average sewer around here is probably around 60'-100' long and mostly 4"

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My average time is 30 minutes by myself with a machine you can pick up with 2 fingers. I'm not saying that to show off but there are better ways to do this.
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I love my ridgid camera and pipe finder. They have done a ton of good for me. That said 3k$ and 6k$ are ridiculous prices. I have to assume they wanted to make sure that their customers would take care of them so they wouldn't have a ton of warranty issues and if they did at least they would have the extra cash to fix them for free.

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The reason they cost so much is because ridgid cameras use alot of propiretary equipment and make hundreds of a part at a time instead of thousands. I went to have a simple part machined and the cost was 700.....If I had 30 made, the cost was only 1000.
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One guy or two? I always work alone. Two guys will make it go faster if at least one of them knows what to do and is willing to order the other around so they are constantly helping and not just standing there.


How long does it take you to deal with say 40 gallons of sewage you may get out of a basement cleanout?






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1 guy. And if I have to deal with to sewage from a wall clean out for a septic tank or something then it normally starts to run up to 4 hours but most times there is a clean out on a stack in the basement.

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My average time is 30 minutes by myself with a machine you can pick up with 2 fingers. I'm not saying that to show off but there are better ways to do this.
I would love to do it in a better way and get it to take 30 minutes for a main sewer like you state. I would myself buy a general speed rooter 92 with 100' of 5/8" cable instead of the oversized Gorlitz I work with now. Now from what I have seen in your videos it looked like your 30 minutes is with an outside clean out. I need to get in to a basement then put drop cloths down and I need to clean up a little bit when I'm done.

I asked about the flex shaft but the impression I got here from you guys was that it can be a good tool but not a main machine on its own without drum machine or camera also in the arsenal.

If you can tell me that a flexshaft is all I need to open a regular clogged line with a few roots and I would not need any other machines then I'm all over it, but that does not seem to be the case.

Like I have said, around here there is no drain cleaning only companies so people expect any plumber to be able to clean drains too. I am not looking to specialise in drain cleaning but simply to be able to deal with standard clogs to service customers. When I start a business if I start to tell people to call another plumber for drains then next time they have a plumbing issue they will call that guy and not me. That is no way to keep customers and business coming in.

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I can talk about this here before other places but I'll be offering a class on how to clean drains by using new techniques. Just as an example, my k50, k60, clog dog are off the van and I'm now using my own custom designed equipment....cables and flex shaft, jetter, camera etc. Instead of selling the equipment, I'll just offer the class and you can make your own and if you still want to buy a commercially produced product, then at least you know what features are important.

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