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Old 11-14-2019, 07:10 PM   #1
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Jack Lewis Martin, 41, was a journeyman plumber for several years, family members said.

His father, Larry Martin, went to the site of the collapse.

"If I could've traded his life for mine, I would," Larry Martin said.

Martin was buried while doing a job behind a shopping center along the North Freeway at Parker. working on a sewer line repair

According to officials with the Houston Fire Department, Martin was trapped in a trench measuring about 5 feet by 6 feet, when dirt fell in on him.

Nearby residents say they heard cries of, "Help me, help me," after the collapse as a co-worker rushed to his aid.
HFD Deputy Chief Douglas Harrison says Martin's coworker tried to use a backhoe to dig him out, but then the equipment partially fell into the trench.

OSHA representatives were called to the scene to investigate.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:22 PM   #2
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Poor guy... people never think it's going to happen to them...

Importance of using a trench box...

Guys around here dont use them all the time... I shake my head...

Wont even go close to a hole without means of shoring
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:43 PM   #3
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When is the last time dumb a$$es sloped an 8' trench or shore for a house water line in the front yard or sewer line? I haven't seen that yet.


We are told repeatedly it's a death trap but nobody cares... Even the guy who goes in to work in it. Well that's what happens when you don't say no to your boss and afraid to get fired, you die. Or stupid or ignorant for that matter.
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Our city inspectors will call the ministry on us if were not wearing a hard hat let alone not using a box
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Very sad indeed.

I've been told that if a trench collapses onto you leaving your head exposed, you may still die. Despite the head being exposed, each time you let out a breath, the loose earth collapses a little bit more around your chest preventing you from inhaling. Sort of like how a big boa constrictor snake kills its prey.
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Very sad indeed.



I've been told that if a trench collapses onto you leaving your head exposed, you may still die. Despite the head being exposed, each time you let out a breath, the loose earth collapses a little bit more around your chest preventing you from inhaling. Sort of like how a big boa constrictor snake kills its prey.


I’ve been buried from just above the knees down. It was weird how it happened. I was still standing when it was done caving in. Usually you get knocked over and folded into a knot.

Judging by what I felt I’d say you’re right. I couldn’t move at all.

There’s people dying in trench collapses all the damn time.

I get it, boxes are a pain in arse. But it beats dying in a muddy ditch.


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I’ve been buried from just above the knees down. It was weird how it happened. I was still standing when it was done caving in. Usually you get knocked over and folded into a knot.

Judging by what I felt I’d say you’re right. I couldn’t move at all.

There’s people dying in trench collapses all the damn time.

I get it, boxes are a pain in arse. But it beats dying in a muddy ditch.


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Around here I have normally only seen the trench stepped out (sloped) but honestly normally not quite as much as in that picture.

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The only time I've done sloping was when I was doing new home plumbing. There was no landscaping to worry about, no driveways, sidewalks, etc. Doing that at someone's house is a good way to not get called back around here.

We use shoring on all trenches over 4'. It's not worth the risk not to.
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Sure it is. But there just isn’t room to slope a ditch on most 99% of the digs I’m involved with.


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