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Old 03-05-2019, 05:56 PM   #1
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So got some of these sent out to a job site in place of auto flare with no warning from supplier that there has been a change. Mind you I don’t use this stuff too often but in this application it just made since with the amount of repeated drops in this particular project. Holy cow did my guys really have a hard time with them trying to install like an auto flare. Leak city. Took all 84 of them out and returned to supplier for auto flare fittings. These auto snap are an accident waiting to happen. I’d say less than a 1/16th of an inch of seal with the auto snap. Wasn’t impressed. If anything horrified that this **** is in countless homes around here.
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Old 03-05-2019, 06:20 PM   #2
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I ran some black CSST recently. Counter strike maybe? I can't recall. But for the outside gas line, I used galvanized and converted to the CSST under the building's crawl space.


I'm not familiar with the product that you're speaking about. But then again, I'm not installing much gas these days, just occasional repairs.


That's why we test. Thanks for the input.
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I ran some black CSST recently. Counter strike maybe? I can't recall. But for the outside gas line, I used galvanized and converted to the CSST under the building's crawl space.


I'm not familiar with the product that you're speaking about. But then again, I'm not installing much gas these days, just occasional repairs.


That's why we test. Thanks for the input.



He means these in the video as opposed to the ones where you put the nut on then the two halves, and then the fitting. They do look kind of hokey. The best way is to just run black iron the whole way instead of this garbage.







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What concerns me is A, ccst is a delicate material, 2, no one is suppose to be able to buy the products or materials without presenting a card to the supplier showing you are an approved and tested installer, C, even the auto flare fittings are a PITA sometimes. But it is a true flared connection once installed properly. These auto snaps do not flare. It’s more of a centered squish of the pipe resulting of a tiny inward flare of the pipe.

Our local rep for the distribution of this material is an old co worker of mine from way back. I spoke with him about these fittings last week and I was told they were pulled from the shelves for defects a while back and they these are a newer design. Also he mentioned that we should not have received them in my order unless I showed proof of training for these new fittings.
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I ran some black CSST recently. Counter strike maybe? I can't recall. But for the outside gas line, I used galvanized and converted to the CSST under the building's crawl space.


I'm not familiar with the product that you're speaking about. But then again, I'm not installing much gas these days, just occasional repairs.


That's why we test. Thanks for the input.



"Flash Sheild" is probably what it was, the new version of the yellow csst. I actually like the Flash Sheild, especially after getting the 2 step jacket cutting tool (cheap investment for properly cutting the jacket and sheilding)
I tried to help a guy fix some issues he was having with some of the yellow csst from home depot, that stuff is junk (IMHO)
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i use black iron for gas lines whenever i can, im not a big fan of running the csst in walls or under anything where it can be punctured by a stray nail or screw or someone with a long drill thats running an alarm wire or some other wire..
but about 6 or 7 years ago i used it in a tight crawl space to run gas to a stove in an existing kitchen, they went from electric to gas, so no gas pipe any place close, ran about 50 ft of the csst, bought from the supply house, yellow covering, it was a life saver to install in such a tight area and it was left exposed so it can be seen..trying to use black pipe would have taken 10x the amount of time, i followed the directions for the end fittings and had no issue with leaks...
but i can see how this would be the pex of the gas lines and for speed of installation on larger projects it would save some big money on labor, but needs to be installed correctly..
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i use black iron for gas lines whenever i can, im not a big fan of running the csst in walls or under anything where it can be punctured by a stray nail or screw or someone with a long drill thats running an alarm wire or some other wire..
but about 6 or 7 years ago i used it in a tight crawl space to run gas to a stove in an existing kitchen, they went from electric to gas, so no gas pipe any place close, ran about 50 ft of the csst, bought from the supply house, yellow covering, it was a life saver to install in such a tight area and it was left exposed so it can be seen..trying to use black pipe would have taken 10x the amount of time, i followed the directions for the end fittings and had no issue with leaks...
but i can see how this would be the pex of the gas lines and for speed of installation on larger projects it would save some big money on labor, but needs to be installed correctly..
I know where your coming from and agree with you, but BI is not always safe as well.
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I know where your coming from and agree with you, but BI is not always safe as well.

lol..well it takes a bigger moron to keep drilling through thick BL than thin SS...one would think to stop and look when the drill bit slowed down to a stop..
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"Flash Sheild" is probably what it was, the new version of the yellow csst. I actually like the Flash Sheild, especially after getting the 2 step jacket cutting tool (cheap investment for properly cutting the jacket and sheilding)
I tried to help a guy fix some issues he was having with some of the yellow csst from home depot, that stuff is junk (IMHO)
















Yes that is the same stuff {obviously I don't use it much....LOL}. But I bought that little yellow 2-step stripping tool that you're referring to.
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lol..well it takes a bigger moron to keep drilling through thick BL than thin SS...one would think to stop and look when the drill bit slowed down to a stop..


















Or when the drill bit comes back smoking & red-hot! And on top of that, after the guy drilling was pushing as hard as he could!...…LOL….
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