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Old 09-27-2019, 09:53 PM   #1
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Here’s a few jobs I’ve recently completed. First is a well, pressure system in a broiler chicken barn. Then I tried to finish the week running 300’ of 1” poly for a horse watering station. Then went to get my new excavation business purchase, and coming back into town I get a no water call, thought hopefully it’s just the pump. Nope internet provider hit the suction line with a directional drill. So an hour of digging where the elderly farmer says the line is proved nothing. Going tomorrow to dig in a new suction line. Sometimes you win sometimes you learn.
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Old 09-28-2019, 03:51 AM   #2
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Question (not a negative comment):
Do you plan to insulate the HW piping in the first pic?
It is required in my neck of the woods.
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Do you plan to insulate the HW piping in the first pic?
It is required in my neck of the woods.
If the water heater is equipped with check valves then it’s not required here.
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If the water heater is equipped with check valves then its not required here.

what do check valves have todo with heat loss through the pipes when in use? we have to insulate all the pipes, hot , cold and any heating pipes...
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If the water heater is equipped with check valves then its not required here.
If there is a recirc system is there a requirement to insulate?
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what do check valves have todo with heat loss through the pipes when in use?



Nothing. The check valves, or more correctly reffered to as flow checks are just there to stop natural convection of the water. Yes there will still be heat transfer especially when the water is being drawn but it seems like their main issue with heat loss is only when it's not in use.


The check valves I believe he is referring to are just the rubber flaps in the nipples. Check valves hold pressure in one direction. Flow checks limit flow in one or both directions. I might sound like a grammar nazi but I think we should all use the correct terms when discussing HOT water heaters.



I agree with you, all hot water pipes should be insulated for efficiency. I also think cold water pipes should be insulated but that is a much less serious concern.












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Nothing. The check valves, or more correctly reffered to as flow checks are just there to stop natural convection of the water. Yes there will still be heat transfer especially when the water is being drawn but it seems like their main issue with heat loss is only when it's not in use.


The check valves I believe he is referring to are just the rubber flaps in the nipples. Check valves hold pressure in one direction. Flow checks limit flow in one or both directions. I might sound like a grammar nazi but I think we should all use the correct terms when discussing HOT water heaters.



I agree with you, all hot water pipes should be insulated for efficiency. I also think cold water pipes should be insulated but that is a much less serious concern.












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Eh...the hot water even without check valves doesnt convect much..its not like a heating loop ....insulating would make the biggest difference in saving energy..
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If you are running cw lines in a attic, insulation is a good idea in many areas. When the ambient air climbs over 100f in the summer, someone is going to notice.
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If you are running cw lines in a attic, insulation is a good idea in many areas. When the ambient air climbs over 100f in the summer, someone is going to notice.



Round here we don't run potable water lines in attics.








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Round here we don't run potable water lines in attics..

If you have a slab floor, you may not have a choice.
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