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Old 09-11-2019, 07:07 AM   #11
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I installed a few customer supplied toilets that mechanically had 2 buttons ontop of the tank for flushing..one for if you take a piss and the other if you took a dump( more water in the flush)..but havent seen one that works electronically....that should last all not that long..sticking electronics in a water filled closed area??? wtf...it looks like electronics from the picture....
It's not electronic, all mechanical. What's funny or in some cases not funny at all about those dual flush is the big center flush valve. You can't get a replacement. One day I'll get a call and I'll have to say to the customer it can't be fixed unless you call for parts and charge you a second visit or you need a new toilet. I'll be charging 2-3 hours more for me or you to get another.

They are going to freak out on the price and they might think I'm conning them into more money saying I can't repair it.
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Old 09-11-2019, 07:21 AM   #12
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It's not electronic, all mechanical. What's funny or in some cases not funny at all about those dual flush is the big center flush valve. You can't get a replacement. One day I'll get a call and I'll have to say to the customer it can't be fixed unless you call for parts and charge you a second visit or you need a new toilet. I'll be charging 2-3 hours more for me or you to get another.

They are going to freak out on the price and they might think I'm conning them into more money saying I can't repair it.

I am probably gonna pass on this job today,,,, thinking it was a normal toilet the price was going to be about average 150-200 to repair... They had their maintiance company quote them 400 because they saw what they were up against.....

we are busy this week and its just more trouble than it is worth to get into this mess just to educate myself along with all you dumb asses......


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I am probably gonna pass on this job today,,,, thinking it was a normal toilet the price was going to be about average 150-200 to repair... They had their maintiance company quote them 400 because they saw what they were up against.....

we are busy this week and its just more trouble than it is worth to get into this mess just to educate myself along with all you dumb asses......


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I went there and it was actually just a gerber toilet which I switched out the overflow assembly and handle and ballcock with the common fluid master valves......

it appears that somehow this turd works by some kind of air pressure that when you push on the handle up or down it regulates this drum to let a little or a lot of water pass out of the tank....

who ever thought this junk up ought to be taken out and shot.....

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And not from the big boys [A/S, Kohler, Crane, Gerber and so on. But in the 90's when they figured out there was a water shortage. The old norm went out the window 3.5 became the norm, then it went to 1.6 -- then to save more we went to this type of junk shown in this post. IMHO the simplest was made by Mansfield the flush handle had no end on it. It just went through a loop that was a part of the flush valve. In the case of using it for pee or poo the amount of water needed was ... regular just flush it. To save water, you simply reversed the handle motion and the flush stopped. The problem was customer education. Who reads directions ... How many plumbers explained the workings to the customer?

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And not from the big boys [A/S, Kohler, Crane, Gerber and so on. But in the 90's when they figured out there was a water shortage. The old norm went out the window 3.5 became the norm, then it went to 1.6 -- then to save more we went to this type of junk shown in this post. IMHO the simplest was made by Mansfield the flush handle had no end on it. It just went through a loop that was a part of the flush valve. In the case of using it for pee or poo the amount of water needed was ... regular just flush it. To save water, you simply reversed the handle motion and the flush stopped. The problem was customer education. Who reads directions ... How many plumbers explained the workings to the customer?

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I got news for you..there is no water shortage..its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$..they charge more for water now and by reducing water in sewage they save $$$$$$$$$$$$ processing sewage.....but your taxes for sewage treatment keeps going up and so does the cost of buying water if you dont have your own well...
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I got news for you..there is no water shortage..its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$..they charge more for water now and by reducing water in sewage they save $$$$$$$$$$$$ processing sewage.....but your taxes for sewage treatment keeps going up and so does the cost of buying water if you dont have your own well...
My neighbor up the street said he sees the city employees open the manhole and attach a hose to the fire hydrant and blast out the sewer. He asked them what they’re doing and they said the sewers can’t handle these low flush toilets so they have wash them down a few times a year. All the water savings of these toilets is negated by the time and water the city uses to flush the lines.
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my neighbor up the street said he sees the city employees open the manhole and attach a hose to the fire hydrant and blast out the sewer. He asked them what they’re doing and they said the sewers can’t handle these low flush toilets so they have wash them down a few times a year. All the water savings of these toilets is negated by the time and water the city uses to flush the lines.
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