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Old 01-08-2020, 03:48 PM   #21
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Georgous, fine work.
Nobody in the western states have used lead joints(other than for repairs) in over 45 years.
Even though I am retired, haven't had the guts to divest of my full set of caulking irons.

I dont get rid of any tools ever..even if I dont use them anymore, as I dont know if ill need them some day....
I dont need the money and have space to store them....I guess it also keeps the memories of earlier times alive each time you see the old tools on the shelf or tool bin....
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Old 01-09-2020, 06:30 AM   #22
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Thank you! Im in my early 30s and I have a almost a full set. I dont have any irons for digging lead out of the joint. But I have all the others. Hard to come by. Mine were gifted to me from an old timer. They make new ones but they aren't as good as the old HOOD irons.
Not as hard to find as you might think.
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Appreciate the link. My supply houses sell them but they're so big and chunky. The set I'm currently using is probably as old as my dad.
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Old 01-09-2020, 09:14 AM   #23
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I think it's insane to be installing leaded cast iron still. Really, what benefit does this have over plastic? Especially underground.


What do you use to stop your brass clean out plugs from rusting in place? I usually use some silicone grease and teflon tape.

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If you dump anything really hot you need a way to cool it down so you don't warp the PVC. Like discharge from an Autoclave, rice cookers, etc. Not uncommon to run X amount of feet of cast to cool things down then convert to PVC

If I am not mistaken some religious organizations like the Mormons or Seventh Day Adventists will not allow plastic. Had a church in my area done with Cast for that reason.

Completely agree that outside of these reasons it can be pushed by Unions to keep costs up, in a few instances for fire (above ground) but they make a fire wrap which is commonly used for PVC installation in "open plenum" HVAC systems. In that case it is mandated.
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If you dump anything really hot you need a way to cool it down so you don't warp the PVC. Like discharge from an Autoclave, rice cookers, etc. Not uncommon to run X amount of feet of cast to cool things down then convert to PVC

If I am not mistaken some religious organizations like the Mormons or Seventh Day Adventists will not allow plastic. Had a church in my area done with Cast for that reason.

Completely agree that outside of these reasons it can be pushed by Unions to keep costs up, in a few instances for fire (above ground) but they make a fire wrap which is commonly used for PVC installation in "open plenum" HVAC systems. In that case it is mandated.



Even cases of heat dissipation dwv copper might make more sense. Of course you'd want to paint it black.


Clearly there are cases when you might still want to install cast or copper instead of plastic. I just meant that in general, pvc should be your starting point. If you think you should use something else for a drain then start from there. Cast iron does have its place and I would never wish to completely ban any plumbing method or material. Service plumbing has taught me that you need all the options at your disposal. Lolz, drain humor.










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If you dump anything really hot you need a way to cool it down so you don't warp the PVC. Like discharge from an Autoclave, rice cookers, etc. Not uncommon to run X amount of feet of cast to cool things down then convert to PVC

If I am not mistaken some religious organizations like the Mormons or Seventh Day Adventists will not allow plastic. Had a church in my area done with Cast for that reason.

Completely agree that outside of these reasons it can be pushed by Unions to keep costs up, in a few instances for fire (above ground) but they make a fire wrap which is commonly used for PVC installation in "open plenum" HVAC systems. In that case it is mandated.



Even cases of heat dissipation dwv copper might make more sense. Of course you'd want to paint it black.


Clearly there are cases when you might still want to install cast or copper instead of plastic. I just meant that in general, pvc should be your starting point. If you think you should use something else for a drain then start from there. Cast iron does have its place and I would never wish to completely ban any plumbing method or material. Service plumbing has taught me that you need all the options at your disposal. Lolz, drain humor. <img src="https://www.plumbingzone.com/images/smilies/vs_laugh.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Vs Laugh" class="inlineimg" />










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Cast iron is code for commercial work in my city. PVC is illegal and we are not allowed to use it. Lead and oakum is the only permissible way to join pipe underground. Philadelphia has its own codebook , we don't follow IPC or UPC.
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